"Richard K." > wrote in message
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> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:37:23 -0400, "Richard K." >
>> wrote:
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>>
>>>Your stories point out some very stupid things. But there are also a lot
>>>of
>>>anecdotes that could be told of what working conditions in the US were
>>>like
>>>before unions... child labor, sweat shops, no workers comp, low wages,
>>>getting fired without cause, workers beaten and killed for trying to
>>>unionize and protect their rights, etc. Before unions, things were
>>>pretty
>>>awful for a lot of workers.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Very true, but the good the unions did back then does not justify what
>> some unions do now to exploit the workers for their dues. Look up the
>> wages of the union bosses too. Higher than the wage earner they
>> supposedly represent.
>
>
> yeah, some are co-opted or greedy. The bane of any large organization be
> it politics, religion or business.
>
> One officer here for Afscme diddled away a few hundred thousand for
> herself. Conveniently let the Treasurer position go unfilled over a year
> so there was no oversight. But shouldn't some regional or national
> officer noticed there was no Treasurer? On the other hand, I'd probably
> still have my old job if I'd been in the union. (Which I tried to get
> into for years literally but management just kept delaying and ignoring
> the request... When you live in an "at will" state, and have no union
> representative you are out there on your own.... "any hiring is presumed
> to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals
> "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is
> equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.")
Just like in the 19th Century!