On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:08:31 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:15:32 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
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> >On 1/29/2013 2:50 PM, Jeßus wrote:
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> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:04:06 -0600, Moe DeLoughan >
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> >>> On 1/29/2013 1:09 PM, Michel Boucher wrote:
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> >>>> Moe DeLoughan > wrote in
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> >>>>> Many of the outbreaks linked to dairy products involve
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> >>>>> unpasteurized milk and cream
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> >>>> Outbreaks of what? Satisfaction?
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> >>>> You can buy unpasteurized cheese in Canada and there is no recorded
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> >>>> outbreak of anything but satisfaction. The federal government
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> >>>> dropped that nonsense after it was clearly demonstrated by Quebec
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> >>>> fromageries that cheese from unpasteurized milk is harmless.
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> >>> From the same article:
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> >>> "A study published last year that looked at 13 years of outbreaks
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> >>> linked to dairy products found that unpasteurized milk, cheese and
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> >>> cream were 150 times more likely to cause food-borne illness outbreaks
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> >>> than pasteurized dairy foods and that such outbreaks had a
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> >>> hospitalization rate 13 times higher than those involving pasteurized
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> >>> dairy products."
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> >>> So, no. They're *not* safer than pasteurized dairy products - at least
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> >>> not in the US. It's not at all surprising if you think about it - when
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> >>> you consume raw dairy products, you're putting your health into the
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> >>> hands of the individual running that particular farming operation.
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> >>> That trust can and often is misplaced.
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> >> Oh dear, where to start with what's wrong with this comment?
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> >> I suggest you do a LOT more research - and realise there are
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> >> vested/powerful interests that are against raw milk for their own
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> >> selfish reasons...
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> >Oh, I get it. You're another alt-med magical raw milk nut, aren't you?
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> >You don't believe people are in it for the money, and don't give a
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> >damn who they hurt. You think only Big Pharma and Big Farmers are
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> >evil, and that Big Alt-Med is pure as the driven snow.
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> Wow, it's almost like you know me
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> >The truth is, the only motivation for farmers to provide raw milk is
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> >money from gullible fools.
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> Unlike the motivation of those who pasteurise? Just being
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> intentionally flippant here, as your comment makes little sense.
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> >We settled the public health issue regarding raw milk over a hundred
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> >years ago. Nothing has changed since then. Germs haven't magically
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> >gone away. Neither has cowshit and dirty hands/teats.
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> "We", as in you and some other people 'settled' the matter, did ya?
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> I've been drinking raw milk for nearly five years now and no problems
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> here. There hasn't been any real evidence that raw milk is any more
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> dangerous than pasteurised milk, in fact I'd say it's quite the
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Heck, I believe that Pasteurization does kill stuff that might make one sick, but the reason that I don't seek out raw milk is the cost, $7-$9/gallon as opposed to $2.68.

--Bryan