On 02/02/2013 11:43 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
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>> I am supposed to pay 15% on top of that for a service...... $12 to pour
>> the wine into a glass and walk 20 feet to the table?? Hold it.... no,
>> that is not enough..... it is an expensive restaurant, and if I can
>> afford to pay their high prices I should be able to afford 20%.. Not
>> when I am already being gouged. Sorry, but that is a racket.
>>
>>
>>
> So you're going to retaliate against the lowest, most helpless figure
> on the totem pole? You can argue your indignation against a system
> you don't like but you don't affect the restaurant owner one iota
> unless you stay home and don't eat out. When you eat out and pay your
> bill, the restaurant still gets all their profit, doesn't make any
> difference to their bottom line whether you tip or not.
> Janet US

That's the problem there. I don't generally go to places like that. That
$14 glass of wine was way overpriced. It was a mediocre wine. Their
entire limited wine list was mediocre wines, wines that sell for $12-15
per bottle and that is what they were charging for each glass.
The food was also overpriced. It was tasty enough but very small
portions. My sea bass was eaten in four bites. We had their three
course menu and I could have eaten a second complete meal.

My son had made the reservations thinking that it sounded like an
interesting place and that my wife would like to go there for her
birthday. I won't be back. I know lots of places where I can get good
just as good or better and for a lot less money.

There is a local winery restaurant on my list of not to go to places.
Their wine selection is all their own products, and only the more
expensive wines they make. They are all marked way up. It's not like
they have a 5 star type wine cellar with thousands of bottles of vintage
wines that have been aging in their climate controlled cellar. The last
time were there was close to 10 years ago and the soup was $14.95 for
vegetable soup. What the hell can you put in vegetable soup that makes
it worth $14.95? It is not located in high rent downtown commercial
property. It is on their vineyard in the country.



But..... this tipping thing..... I am expected to pay a percentage of
everything, even when they have already jacked the prices way up??? That
doesn't work for me. I don't figure that I have paid for a big
expensive meal so the waiter has to be overcompensated. I do not pay tip
on the sales taxes that have been tacked on.

I can't afford to pay top rate tips on top of an over priced meal so I
shouldn't go out for dinner???? Screw that. If they can't make a living
on their menial labour position maybe they need to look for a better
job. FWIW... I have a nephew with a degree in hotel management who
opted to return to waiting tables because he makes more money at it than
he did in management.