On Feb 28, 5:22*pm, jay > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Bryan > wrote:
>
> > A guy at a nudist camp in Oklahoma gave me a Shiner Bock,
>
> Shiner used to be really good but it is now more corporate. *It's owned
> by Gambrinus also owns Bridgeport Brewing in Oregon. *Gambrinus was
> founded by Carlos Alvarez, a Mexican national, and originally served as
> an importer/distributor for Grupo Modelo. *The company headquarters is
> in San Antonio.
>
> Shiner is ok on a hot day if there isn't anything better. It is way
> better than most of what Anheuser-Bush makes. Small brewers get eaten up
> by these big conglomerates much of the time. *Here is a sad story about
> a great Belgian style brew we used to have here. *The daughter is
> bringing it back.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celis
>
> jay


I had a Shiner Bock a few weeks ago and it didn't really strike me as
a bock at all. It was more like a really uninteresting dark beer. Bock
is supposed to be heavy and rich and malty and this stuff was none of
the above. It wasn't terrible, but they probably shouldn't be calling
it bock, either.