On 17/05/2013 6:45 PM, gloria p wrote:

>> If she was being paid hourly at a rate above the min wage, I don't see
>> anything wrong with not getting tips. Most ppl know waitstaff fall
>> under draconian wage law exceptions that allow them to be paid a mere
>> pittance of a real wage, knowing they can make it up in tips. But, if
>> someone is making min wage, are they entitled to tips, also? I think
>> not. I've worked in a resto kitchen for min wage and no tips and was
>> happy to get it. The real question is, what, in fact, were the wait
>> staff actually paid. We may never know.
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> I strongly disagree, NB. Regardless of what thy are being paid, prices
> are set by the owner of the business to reflect operating costs+profit.
> The server, not the owner, is providing the service to the customer
> and tips are reflective of quality of service.

It is difficult to say when minimum wages vary so much from place to
place. Minimum wage here in Ontario is $10.25/hr, $8.90 for people
serving liquor. I know the latter is a lot less in some US states.


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> The fact that 100+ employees have quit or been fired in a year says
> something about the ownership/management. Having watched some of the
> video clips, I wouldn't work for either of them, much less BOTH. It
> looked like a lot of creepy abuse, attention-seeking and power issues.


Again... hard to say. My son managed a microbrewery restaurant for a few
years and he had a high staff turnover. Most of them were fired for
incompetence, failing to show up for shifts or for theft.