Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 17/05/2013 6:45 PM, gloria p wrote:
>
>>> If she was being paid hourly at a rate above the min wage, I don't see
>>> anything wrong with not getting tips. Most ppl know waitstaff fall
>>> under draconian wage law exceptions that allow them to be paid a mere
>>> pittance of a real wage, knowing they can make it up in tips. But, if
>>> someone is making min wage, are they entitled to tips, also? I think
>>> not. I've worked in a resto kitchen for min wage and no tips and was
>>> happy to get it. The real question is, what, in fact, were the wait
>>> staff actually paid. We may never know.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I strongly disagree, NB. Regardless of what thy are being paid, prices
>> are set by the owner of the business to reflect operating costs+profit.
>> The server, not the owner, is providing the service to the customer
>> and tips are reflective of quality of service.
>
> It is difficult to say when minimum wages vary so much from place to
> place. Minimum wage here in Ontario is $10.25/hr, $8.90 for people
> serving liquor. I know the latter is a lot less in some US states.
>
>
>>
>> The fact that 100+ employees have quit or been fired in a year says
>> something about the ownership/management. Having watched some of the
>> video clips, I wouldn't work for either of them, much less BOTH. It
>> looked like a lot of creepy abuse, attention-seeking and power issues.
>
>
> Again... hard to say. My son managed a microbrewery restaurant for a few
> years and he had a high staff turnover. Most of them were fired for
> incompetence, failing to show up for shifts or for theft.

Most servers get a lot less than minimum here, but with their tips, they
must meet minimum, or the owners must make up the difference. Our state
law.

Greg