jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/28/2013 6:51 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a list of companies who use Monsanto GMO foods.
>>>
>>> http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04...nies-to-avoid/
>>
>> That's a pretty big list. What about the store brand companies? All
>> I see there are big name brands.
>> Janet US
>>
> Aren't most store brands made by big name manufacturers then packaged
> under a different label?

Not necessarily. I have seen several websites online for companies who will
put up their product with your label on it. Water for instance. And if you
look at the store brand of say...condensed soups, the indgedients will be
slightly different. But my BIL used to work for a bakery in PA and he said
they put the very same bread with the brand name on it and then the store
name. And of course the store bread was much cheaper.
>
> I see a big problem on this list for vegans: Morningstar. As in
> Morningstar Farms frozen food. They make fau "burgers", "chik'n" or
> "breakfast patties". Of course I already knew from reading the
> ingredients lists the stuff is nothing but crap.

Perhaps. I don't know if those things are organic or not. We don't eat
them. I used to purchase Sunshine Burgers. I still like them but it's just
cheaper and easier for me to open a can of beans or cook from dried than to
eat those. They are patties made mostly of beans and other veggies. Not
soybeans. We did not eat them as sandwiches. Would just heat one up as a
snack.

The thing that really gets me is Seitan! I didn't know what it was, having
only heard of it referred to on some Asian cooking show. So I read the
ingredients. Wheat! They take the wheat and do all sorts of stuff to it to
make faux meat. I think if it's going to be a faux meat product it should
at least have a similar protein count to the real thing. But I don't think
Seitan does. And oh the carbs!

I just purchased the cookbooks Knives Over Forks or maybe it is Forks Over
Knives, based in the high reviews that it got online. It is what is called
a plant based diet. I didn't know what this meant. Why didn't they just
say vegan? Because it is pretty much vegan except perhaps for the few
recipes that call for a sweetener and then they tell you to use a granulated
sweetener of your choice. So I guess you might use sugar that was non
vegan. But the rest of it is vegan!

I had foolishly assumed that it would be a book that had recipes that were
mostly vegetables, fruit, grains, and stuff like that. With a little
protein like meat, cheese or eggs. But no! It's all vegan and the recipes
are hideous! They use a lot of beans but...IMO they use the wrong type of
beans for the recipe. And a lot of the recipes require you to make some
sort of other recipe and use a portion of it. I hate doing stuff like that
because there is always waste. The macaroni and cheese recipe calls for you
to make a batch of cashew cheeze. I am well familiar with making that stuff
after doing the raw vegan diet. But do I want to make it to cook with?
Nope. I think out of the whole book there is only one recipe I would use.
The others seem to be cobbled together with the emphasis being on nutriton
and not taste. The seasonings are often odd too.

I did noticed that most of the reviewers who gave it bad reviews said that
they actually tried some of the recipes and they tasted horrible. I don't
need to try them to see that. They just look off. Some of the others that
don't look bad are things that I have already been making for years. So the
book is useless to me.