On 6/22/2013 9:46 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
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> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I got to thinking about this later. It is pretty much the same in
>>> UK. Many
>>>
>>> Scots hate the English. Most will not show it, but if you hear those
>>> when
>>>
>>> there are no English around ... otoh most English love the Scots.
>>> Work that
>>>
>>> one out
>>
>> Perhaps if you explain just how sovereign a nation Scotland is, or
>> isn't, we would better understand.
>
> Atm they are not sovereign but some politicians and - from the results
> of surveys - about 30% of the population want to be. Atm they are part
> of the UK. They have a Scottish parliament in Edinburgh that controls
> some government functions but the Scottish Nationalist Party, who are
> currently in power, and some others want complete independence from the
> UK. This hatred of some Scots for the English is not new. It goes back
> hundreds of years. At the moment, Alex Salmond, leader of the SNP, is
> promoting a big festival next year in remembrance of the battle of
> Bannockburn in 1314, which the Scots delight in as one of their few
> military victories against the English. Nothing to do with the fact that
> the referendum on Scottish Independence is being held in September next
> year of course Unfortunately half of them think Braveheart (the film)
> (with Mel Gibson - who has less to do with Scotland than about anybody
> you could think of - in the lead role) was a documentary!
>
> I don't mind if Scotland gets independence (I live in Scotland) but the
> Scots will find they won't have the money to spare as they do now. We
> (the Scots) get (for example) free university tuition fees etc which the
> rest of the UK can't afford. But they get a lot of money from the UK
> gov and the assertion that income from north sea oil and gas, (which
> they will claim) which are fast depleting resources, will fund all their
> socialist policies is nonsense. The Scottish Nationalist Party (Salmond)
> make up policy on the back of an envelope to try to sway the people, but
> it is often knocked down and it is becoming embarrassing. One minute
> they are making bold assertions about becoming a full member of the EU
> on the back of having been part of the UK's membership, which is then
> flat out denied by the EU leaders and bureaucrats, and the next saying
> that they would keep the Pound as their currency, even though the Bank
> of England say that might not be allowed and the EU is insisting that
> any new members adopt the Euro! They just say whatever they think sounds
> good even though they haven't properly researched the reality and
> implications and more and more Scottish people are recognising them for
> what they are. It is a shame really, because if they researched it and
> costed it properly they might have a chance.
>
> They even decided to give 16 year olds a vote in the referendum, they
> said on the basis that the kids would be of voting age when(if) Scotland
> became independent, but really because they thought that the youngsters
> were a) naturally attracted to the concept of independence and b) would
> be easier to influence. Unfortunately for the SNP, surveys among the
> youngsters show the percentage that are pro SNP (Scottish Independence
> Party) is not much higher than in adults and even less of them have any
> respect or liking for Salmond. The SNP is even losing voters in its
> former strongholds like the NE of Scotland due to the hash they have
> made of things since being in the majority after the last national
> elections.
>
> The fact is Scottish independence isn't going to happen this time or in
> the near future and the SNP might well lose their majority in the next
> elections.
>
> Well, you did ask
> --

And you just provided an information dense examination, thank you.

AS ever, not lot of easy answers when it comes to breaking of bits of
the kingdom, is there?