"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
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>> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I got to thinking about this later. It is pretty much the same in UK.
>>> Many
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>>> Scots hate the English. Most will not show it, but if you hear those
>>> when
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>>> there are no English around ... otoh most English love the Scots. Work
>>> that
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>>> one out
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>> Perhaps if you explain just how sovereign a nation Scotland is, or isn't,
>> we would better understand.
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> Atm they are not sovereign but some politicians and - from the results of
> surveys - about 30% of the population want to be. Atm they are part of
> the UK. They have a Scottish parliament in Edinburgh that controls some
> government functions but the Scottish Nationalist Party, who are currently
> in power, and some others want complete independence from the UK. This
> hatred of some Scots for the English is not new. It goes back hundreds of
> years. At the moment, Alex Salmond, leader of the SNP, is promoting a big
> festival next year in remembrance of the battle of Bannockburn in 1314,
> which the Scots delight in as one of their few military victories against
> the English. Nothing to do with the fact that the referendum on Scottish
> Independence is being held in September next year of course
> Unfortunately half of them think Braveheart (the film) (with Mel Gibson -
> who has less to do with Scotland than about anybody you could think of -
> in the lead role) was a documentary!
>
> I don't mind if Scotland gets independence (I live in Scotland) but the
> Scots will find they won't have the money to spare as they do now. We
> (the Scots) get (for example) free university tuition fees etc which the
> rest of the UK can't afford. But they get a lot of money from the UK gov
> and the assertion that income from north sea oil and gas, (which they will
> claim) which are fast depleting resources, will fund all their socialist
> policies is nonsense. The Scottish Nationalist Party (Salmond) make up
> policy on the back of an envelope to try to sway the people, but it is
> often knocked down and it is becoming embarrassing. One minute they are
> making bold assertions about becoming a full member of the EU on the back
> of having been part of the UK's membership, which is then flat out denied
> by the EU leaders and bureaucrats, and the next saying that they would
> keep the Pound as their currency, even though the Bank of England say that
> might not be allowed and the EU is insisting that any new members adopt
> the Euro! They just say whatever they think sounds good even though they
> haven't properly researched the reality and implications and more and more
> Scottish people are recognising them for what they are. It is a shame
> really, because if they researched it and costed it properly they might
> have a chance.
>
> They even decided to give 16 year olds a vote in the referendum, they said
> on the basis that the kids would be of voting age when(if) Scotland became
> independent, but really because they thought that the youngsters were a)
> naturally attracted to the concept of independence and b) would be easier
> to influence. Unfortunately for the SNP, surveys among the youngsters show
> the percentage that are pro SNP (Scottish Independence Party) is not much
> higher than in adults and even less of them have any respect or liking for
> Salmond. The SNP is even losing voters in its former strongholds like the
> NE of Scotland due to the hash they have made of things since being in the
> majority after the last national elections.
>
> The fact is Scottish independence isn't going to happen this time or in
> the near future and the SNP might well lose their majority in the next
> elections.
>
> Well, you did ask

I ought to have added, Sheila Viemeister, (the only Scot posting here) might
disagree I look forward to her views)

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