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> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:22:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
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>>On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:
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>>> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 11:46:57 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The fact is Scottish independence isn't going to happen this time or
>>> > in the
>>> >
>>> > near future and the SNP might well lose their majority in the next
>>> >
>>> > elections.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Well, you did ask
>>>
>>> What a wonderful one sided rant. From your information it appears that
>>> the Scots should be grateful to the English for looking after them.
>>>
>>> Scotland is a beautiful country with a rich history. Its independence,
>>> although fragmented, until unification went back much further than the
>>> English.
>>>
>>> Regarding fiscal independence it is far from clear whether Scotland will
>>> thrive without being anchored to the UK. Many studies have been done
>>> with varied viewpoints. What is clear is that Scotland has been
>>> exploited for many years by Westminster. Before oil was discovered in
>>> the North Sea their was almost no investment in Scotland and the
>>> transportation system to the outer reaches was decimated. There is also
>>> a good argument that the oil was stolen from Scotland for the support of
>>> the rest of the UK. If the model used in Alaska (where the state has
>>> control and income from the oil) had been used in Scotland we would be
>>> arguing that Scotland couldn't leave because of all the wealth they
>>> would be taking with them.
>>>
>>> One should always examine both views, not just be guided by ones own
>>> blind prejudice. You say you live in Scotland. Please read some of the
>>> history and get a more balanced view of your country.
>>>
>>
>>What baffles me is why any Scot would *want* independence, considering
>>Scotland's political power in the UK.
>
> Scotland has less power over itself than a Canadian does within
> Canadian federation. A few concessions have been granted but not big
> power.

They have equal votes in parliament and can vote on matters which do not
even concern Scotland but impact on England. And they do!

and now, I am out of this discussion!

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