"JBurns" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 04:41:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
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>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>
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>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>>>> On 6/22/2013 12:45 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> I got to thinking about this later. It is pretty much the same in UK.
>>>>> Many Scots hate the English. Most will not show it, but if you hear
>>>>> those when there are no English around ... otoh most English love the
>>>>> Scots. Work that one out
>>>>>
>>>>> We get to see that in action. Himself is Scots born, while I am of
>>>>> Scottish extraction so we are treated as Scots with friends and
>>>>> neighbours, even though we have English accents. We get the other
>>>>> side
>>>>> of it when away from them ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ethnic identity is a funny thing. I always thought my wife's family was
>>>> all Irish but she later tells me that she had some Scottish blood
>>>> flowing
>>>> through her. It doesn't change anything about a person but I look at
>>>> her
>>>> at a slightly different angle now.
>>>
>>> Do you really??? How interesting) You need to be careful, she might
>>> don a kilt and start doing a Highland Fling around her kitchen and start
>>> cooking haggis for your dinner)))) If I were you I would keep a
>>> sgian
>>> dubh handy, just in case <g>
>>>
>>>> In the end, it doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> No it doesn't. What matters (to me anyway) is not if they have Martian
>>> blood but the kindness a person has in their heart.
>>>
>>> Her people came to America early on and
>>>> planted roots that ran deep and they helped build this country. We have
>>>> a
>>>> bill of sale for a bitch and child that one of her grandfathers from
>>>> the
>>>> mid-1800s purchased when humans could be bought and sold. Her family
>>>> came
>>>> to raise hell in the new country and they've been raising hell every
>>>> since.
>>>
>>> So, does she raise hell? btw how sad and dehumanising to call a
>>> woman
>>> a 'bitch' It is good those days are past when the selling of human
>>> beings was acceptable.
>>>
>>>> https://yesteryearsnews.wordpress.co...a-desperadoes/
>>>
>>> Fascinating stuff!!! I've saved it to read properly later, thanks
>>
>>My dad always said that we Heinz 57. We are a mix of all sorts of things
>>but we could only track my mom's family back so far. We assume that they
>>came from Ireland because of the name McElhiney. And she said it was said
>>of some of her older relatives that they were black Irish. Many of the
>>older relatives had black hair and dark eyes. But there is also Cherokee
>>Indian on that side of the family.
>
> What outsiders call Black Irish (a term more commonly used outside
> Ireland) most often do not have dark eyes (or skin), they have the
> very dark hair, blue or green eyes and fair skin.

Interesting! We do for the most part have fair skin but there are some with
black hair. They all have brown eyes though. I think my grandpa might have
had blue eyes but can't remember now. We moved away when I was 7 and he
died not long after. And all of the pics I have from those days are black
and white.