I know this has been discussed before and Wayne Boatwright gave me a recipe
for these. It's probably somewhere on my computer. But I ran across
another recipe that called for pickling spice which apparently I can't have
because it contains cloves and allspice. So I found a different recipe that
doesn't.

http://www.organicauthority.com/eco-...e-recipes.html

This looks good to me but do you think these would have enough flavor? I
have been looking and most seem to call for the pickling spice. Also a lot
of the recipes also called for vinegar and I thought that wasn't supposed to
be in these.

Also... For those who have tried Bubbies pickles, what would you call them?
They are a fermented pickle with no vinegar. But what is the difference
between those and half sours? Thanks!