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Lasagna with no cheese.
On 7/10/2013 11:23 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:11:19 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>> On 7/10/2013 10:34 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:31:18 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>> >> On 7/10/2013 3:07 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> > "JBurns" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:48:43 -0500, Sqwertz
>> > >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:24:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> >> >>>> ...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> I think it's ridiculous that some folks believe people can
>> > communicate
>> >> >>>>> with cats on anything but the most primitive level. Not
> only
>> > "in
>> >> >>>>> person", but most of all psychically and telepathically.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>> I could communicate with a cat once.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'll let somebody else field that one.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Alas, I do not have the same abilities with my cats.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> What's not hard to believe is that there are people out
> there
>> > who will
>> >> >>>>> gladly relieve you of your money for giving false hope of
>> > having a
>> >> >>>>> loved one returned to you.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Yes. I am thinking this lady is wrong despite what the news
>> > show said.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Oh, she was recently on the news <sigh>. Then business for
> her
>> > must
>> >> >>> be booming. What is happening all too often nowadays is that
>> >> >>> advertisers are paying media outlets to feature them in a
> "news
>> >> >>> story". This is how media, especially TV, can make more
>> > advertising
>> >> >>> money while still abiding by content rules set forth by the
> FCC
>> >> >>> (namely, they dictate a maximum amount of air-time you may
>> > devote to
>> >> >>> advertising).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> She's an elderly lady. I'll give you her link.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://www.annettebetcher.com/index.shtml
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You can Betcher ass her abilities are all fictitious.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -sw
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She works primarily with horses. There is a reason for that.
> You
>> > can
>> >> >> tell an awful lot about a horse by its body language and
>> > inter-action
>> >> >> with other horses and people, allowing you to make educated
>> > guesses
>> >> >> about its previous treatment, neuroses and fears. Pain and
> unseen
>> >> >> injuries are also easy enough to diagnose with an educated
> set of
>> >> >> hands.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could do this and be right about 70% of the time, but I know
>> > people
>> >> >> that would *connect* with the horse about 90-95% of the time.
>> > Nothing
>> >> >> psychic about it though, just good rapport, good touch and
> lots
>> > of
>> >> >> experience.
>> >> >
>> >> > That could be. I do love animals and while I don't necessarily
>> > dislike
>> >> > horses, they are for sure not my favorite animal. So I don't
>> > know too much
>> >> > about me. Had two friends as a kid who were horse crazy. I
> never
>> >> > understood that. But apparently it is some sort of almost
> sexual
>> > thing
>> >> > where they substitute the horse for a male.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> It seems all to be about having control over a large animal, so
>> > your
>> >> assessment is not far off.
>> >
>> > That's complete crap. As a "horse crazy" girl, I wished for a
> pony and
>> > actually got one for my 9th birthday. It has nothing to do with
> having
>> > control over a large animal nor anything sexual. Horse lovers
> are no
>> > different than cat or dog obsessed pet owners. Perhaps in your
> two
>> > warped fantasy worlds its something more than that, but it's
> fairly
>> > clear to most of us here that you and Julie both live in other
> worlds.
>> >
>> > Jinx
>
>
>> We may be at that, and I'll not dispute my world is not typical
>> mainstream Americana.
>
>
>> I also accept that your experience need not conform to my anecdotal
>> observations.
>
>
>> That aside, there is room to propose that there are elements of
> control
>> and sexuality involved for _some_ horse women:
>
>
>>
> http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/06/when...become-8216hor
> se-women8217.html
>
>
>> There's no denying that horseback riding, at least here on the East
>> Coast, is a sport thats tied up with privilege; little blonde
> girls
>> with pigtails photographed atop their ponies next to moms Jack
>> Russells; Polo Ralph Lauren; Georgina Bloomberg. I always think
> that
>> saddest part of the sport is that it is associated with the elite,
>> because at its heart of hearts, it's just being outdoors and being
> with
>> a beautiful creature. While it's still not cheap by any means, Nir
> says
>> that shes a strong enough rider to be able to sit on anything,
> and
>> makes it work by riding other people's fancy horses. As a grown-up,
> she
>> says the superficial values that made horseback riding slightly
> icky
>> back when she was younger mostly seems to have disappeared. Yennie
>> Solheim, another rider who works at Google and has been riding
> steadily
>> since she was a young girl, adds that as a teen, there was a lot of
>> pressure to have this fancy helmet, and that fancy riding coat.
> For me,
>> now, riding is purely a way for me to relax; it's a getaway.
>
>
>> As young girls, the barn offered the same thing. I was less
> interested
>> in boys than my friends were, DiSclafani says, and didn't, like,
> love
>> middle or high school. The barn was a total refuge. (Like her, and
> all
>> who rode, really, Christine Quinn writes in her new memoir that
>> horseback riding was the activity that sustained her as a
> teenager).
>
>
>> But the sexy stuff is unavoidable. This might be an
> oversimplification,
>> but girls have a lot of sexual energy at that time, and being
> obsessed
>> with horses was one way to direct that, DiSclafani adds. Looking
> back
>> on my early teens, my friends and I definitely used to talk about
> horses
>> like we talked about boys (whom we were definitely not talking to):
>> Wasnt Toy just so cute today? Sarah rode Lucky, and it was so
> clear he
>> didnt like her! Windy and I just really have such good chemistry.
> It's
>> no coincidence that Yonahlossee, a bildungsroman set during the
>> Depression about a young girl whose wealthy family sends her away
> to a
>> horse-centric boarding school, charts her relationship with an
> older man
>> as she becomes a more competitive horseback rider. As she becomes
> more
>> interested in the world of sex, she becomes a better rider, and
> riding
>> is an even more important part of her life, DiSclafani says.
>
> Ad a Midwestern farm girl, none of this applies to my world nor anyone
> else I know from these parts. My perspective is from firsthand knowledge
> and experience, not fantasy magazine articles.
> Can we equate a boy's love of fast cars as a sexual substitute as well,
> for that matter?
In some cases we might I suppose, though their puberty has unique facets
to it.
So?
What's so threatening about the horse article anyway?
It's not your experience after all.
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