On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:26:37 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> On 7/10/2013 11:23 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:11:19 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >> On 7/10/2013 10:34 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:31:18 -0600, casa bona >
wrote:
> >> >> On 7/10/2013 3:07 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >> > "JBurns" > wrote in message
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:48:43 -0500, Sqwertz
> >> > >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:24:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> >> >>>> ...
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> I think it's ridiculous that some folks believe people
can
> >> > communicate
> >> >> >>>>> with cats on anything but the most primitive level. Not
> > only
> >> > "in
> >> >> >>>>> person", but most of all psychically and telepathically.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>> I could communicate with a cat once.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I'll let somebody else field that one.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> Alas, I do not have the same abilities with my cats.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> What's not hard to believe is that there are people out
> > there
> >> > who will
> >> >> >>>>> gladly relieve you of your money for giving false hope
of
> >> > having a
> >> >> >>>>> loved one returned to you.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Yes. I am thinking this lady is wrong despite what the
news
> >> > show said.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Oh, she was recently on the news <sigh>. Then business
for
> > her
> >> > must
> >> >> >>> be booming. What is happening all too often nowadays is
that
> >> >> >>> advertisers are paying media outlets to feature them in a
> > "news
> >> >> >>> story". This is how media, especially TV, can make more
> >> > advertising
> >> >> >>> money while still abiding by content rules set forth by
the
> > FCC
> >> >> >>> (namely, they dictate a maximum amount of air-time you may
> >> > devote to
> >> >> >>> advertising).
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> She's an elderly lady. I'll give you her link.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> http://www.annettebetcher.com/index.shtml
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> You can Betcher ass her abilities are all fictitious.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> -sw
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> She works primarily with horses. There is a reason for
that.
> > You
> >> > can
> >> >> >> tell an awful lot about a horse by its body language and
> >> > inter-action
> >> >> >> with other horses and people, allowing you to make educated
> >> > guesses
> >> >> >> about its previous treatment, neuroses and fears. Pain and
> > unseen
> >> >> >> injuries are also easy enough to diagnose with an educated
> > set of
> >> >> >> hands.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I could do this and be right about 70% of the time, but I
know
> >> > people
> >> >> >> that would *connect* with the horse about 90-95% of the
time.
> >> > Nothing
> >> >> >> psychic about it though, just good rapport, good touch and
> > lots
> >> > of
> >> >> >> experience.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That could be. I do love animals and while I don't
necessarily
> >> > dislike
> >> >> > horses, they are for sure not my favorite animal. So I
don't
> >> > know too much
> >> >> > about me. Had two friends as a kid who were horse crazy. I
> > never
> >> >> > understood that. But apparently it is some sort of almost
> > sexual
> >> > thing
> >> >> > where they substitute the horse for a male.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> It seems all to be about having control over a large animal,
so
> >> > your
> >> >> assessment is not far off.
> >> >
> >> > That's complete crap. As a "horse crazy" girl, I wished for a
> > pony and
> >> > actually got one for my 9th birthday. It has nothing to do
with
> > having
> >> > control over a large animal nor anything sexual. Horse lovers
> > are no
> >> > different than cat or dog obsessed pet owners. Perhaps in your
> > two
> >> > warped fantasy worlds its something more than that, but it's
> > fairly
> >> > clear to most of us here that you and Julie both live in other
> > worlds.
> >> >
> >> > Jinx
> >
> >
> >> We may be at that, and I'll not dispute my world is not typical
> >> mainstream Americana.
> >
> >
> >> I also accept that your experience need not conform to my
anecdotal
> >> observations.
> >
> >
> >> That aside, there is room to propose that there are elements of
> > control
> >> and sexuality involved for _some_ horse women:
> >
> >
> >>
> >
http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/06/when...become-8216hor

> > se-women8217.html
> >
> >
> >> There's no denying that horseback riding, at least here on the
East
> >> Coast, is a sport thats tied up with privilege; little blonde
> > girls
> >> with pigtails photographed atop their ponies next to moms Jack
> >> Russells; Polo Ralph Lauren; Georgina Bloomberg. I always think
> > that
> >> saddest part of the sport is that it is associated with the
elite,
> >> because at its heart of hearts, it's just being outdoors and
being
> > with
> >> a beautiful creature. While it's still not cheap by any means,
Nir
> > says
> >> that shes a strong enough rider to be able to sit on anything,
> > and
> >> makes it work by riding other people's fancy horses. As a
grown-up,
> > she
> >> says the superficial values that made horseback riding slightly
> > icky
> >> back when she was younger mostly seems to have disappeared.
Yennie
> >> Solheim, another rider who works at Google and has been riding
> > steadily
> >> since she was a young girl, adds that as a teen, there was a lot
of
> >> pressure to have this fancy helmet, and that fancy riding coat.
> > For me,
> >> now, riding is purely a way for me to relax; it's a getaway.
> >
> >
> >> As young girls, the barn offered the same thing. I was less
> > interested
> >> in boys than my friends were, DiSclafani says, and didn't,
like,
> > love
> >> middle or high school. The barn was a total refuge. (Like her,
and
> > all
> >> who rode, really, Christine Quinn writes in her new memoir that
> >> horseback riding was the activity that sustained her as a
> > teenager).
> >
> >
> >> But the sexy stuff is unavoidable. This might be an
> > oversimplification,
> >> but girls have a lot of sexual energy at that time, and being
> > obsessed
> >> with horses was one way to direct that, DiSclafani adds. Looking
> > back
> >> on my early teens, my friends and I definitely used to talk about
> > horses
> >> like we talked about boys (whom we were definitely not talking
to):
> >> Wasnt Toy just so cute today? Sarah rode Lucky, and it was so
> > clear he
> >> didnt like her! Windy and I just really have such good
chemistry.
> > It's
> >> no coincidence that Yonahlossee, a bildungsroman set during the
> >> Depression about a young girl whose wealthy family sends her away
> > to a
> >> horse-centric boarding school, charts her relationship with an
> > older man
> >> as she becomes a more competitive horseback rider. As she
becomes
> > more
> >> interested in the world of sex, she becomes a better rider, and
> > riding
> >> is an even more important part of her life, DiSclafani says.
> >
> > Ad a Midwestern farm girl, none of this applies to my world nor
anyone
> > else I know from these parts. My perspective is from firsthand
knowledge
> > and experience, not fantasy magazine articles.
> > Can we equate a boy's love of fast cars as a sexual substitute as
well,
> > for that matter?


> In some cases we might I suppose, though their puberty has unique
facets
> to it.


> So?


> What's so threatening about the horse article anyway?


> It's not your experience after all.

I didn't find it threatening, nor did I find it to support Julie's
"knowledge" of a love of horses as being something sexual. Do you
own a dog, by the way? Surely you know what people say about women
and the real reason they own dogs, especially those big ones. Or
snakes. Or hamsters.

Ridiculous, isn't it?