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Lasagna with no cheese.
On 7/10/2013 12:04 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:26:37 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>> On 7/10/2013 11:23 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:11:19 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>> >> On 7/10/2013 10:34 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:31:18 -0600, casa bona >
> wrote:
>> >> >> On 7/10/2013 3:07 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >> > "JBurns" > wrote in message
>> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:48:43 -0500, Sqwertz
>> >> > >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:24:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>> ...
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> I think it's ridiculous that some folks believe people
> can
>> >> > communicate
>> >> >> >>>>> with cats on anything but the most primitive level. Not
>> > only
>> >> > "in
>> >> >> >>>>> person", but most of all psychically and telepathically.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> I could communicate with a cat once.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I'll let somebody else field that one.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Alas, I do not have the same abilities with my cats.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> What's not hard to believe is that there are people out
>> > there
>> >> > who will
>> >> >> >>>>> gladly relieve you of your money for giving false hope
> of
>> >> > having a
>> >> >> >>>>> loved one returned to you.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Yes. I am thinking this lady is wrong despite what the
> news
>> >> > show said.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Oh, she was recently on the news <sigh>. Then business
> for
>> > her
>> >> > must
>> >> >> >>> be booming. What is happening all too often nowadays is
> that
>> >> >> >>> advertisers are paying media outlets to feature them in a
>> > "news
>> >> >> >>> story". This is how media, especially TV, can make more
>> >> > advertising
>> >> >> >>> money while still abiding by content rules set forth by
> the
>> > FCC
>> >> >> >>> (namely, they dictate a maximum amount of air-time you may
>> >> > devote to
>> >> >> >>> advertising).
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> She's an elderly lady. I'll give you her link.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> http://www.annettebetcher.com/index.shtml
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> You can Betcher ass her abilities are all fictitious.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> -sw
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> She works primarily with horses. There is a reason for
> that.
>> > You
>> >> > can
>> >> >> >> tell an awful lot about a horse by its body language and
>> >> > inter-action
>> >> >> >> with other horses and people, allowing you to make educated
>> >> > guesses
>> >> >> >> about its previous treatment, neuroses and fears. Pain and
>> > unseen
>> >> >> >> injuries are also easy enough to diagnose with an educated
>> > set of
>> >> >> >> hands.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I could do this and be right about 70% of the time, but I
> know
>> >> > people
>> >> >> >> that would *connect* with the horse about 90-95% of the
> time.
>> >> > Nothing
>> >> >> >> psychic about it though, just good rapport, good touch and
>> > lots
>> >> > of
>> >> >> >> experience.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That could be. I do love animals and while I don't
> necessarily
>> >> > dislike
>> >> >> > horses, they are for sure not my favorite animal. So I
> don't
>> >> > know too much
>> >> >> > about me. Had two friends as a kid who were horse crazy. I
>> > never
>> >> >> > understood that. But apparently it is some sort of almost
>> > sexual
>> >> > thing
>> >> >> > where they substitute the horse for a male.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> It seems all to be about having control over a large animal,
> so
>> >> > your
>> >> >> assessment is not far off.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's complete crap. As a "horse crazy" girl, I wished for a
>> > pony and
>> >> > actually got one for my 9th birthday. It has nothing to do
> with
>> > having
>> >> > control over a large animal nor anything sexual. Horse lovers
>> > are no
>> >> > different than cat or dog obsessed pet owners. Perhaps in your
>> > two
>> >> > warped fantasy worlds its something more than that, but it's
>> > fairly
>> >> > clear to most of us here that you and Julie both live in other
>> > worlds.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jinx
>> >
>> >
>> >> We may be at that, and I'll not dispute my world is not typical
>> >> mainstream Americana.
>> >
>> >
>> >> I also accept that your experience need not conform to my
> anecdotal
>> >> observations.
>> >
>> >
>> >> That aside, there is room to propose that there are elements of
>> > control
>> >> and sexuality involved for _some_ horse women:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >
> http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/06/when...become-8216hor
>
>> > se-women8217.html
>> >
>> >
>> >> There's no denying that horseback riding, at least here on the
> East
>> >> Coast, is a sport thats tied up with privilege; little blonde
>> > girls
>> >> with pigtails photographed atop their ponies next to moms Jack
>> >> Russells; Polo Ralph Lauren; Georgina Bloomberg. I always think
>> > that
>> >> saddest part of the sport is that it is associated with the
> elite,
>> >> because at its heart of hearts, it's just being outdoors and
> being
>> > with
>> >> a beautiful creature. While it's still not cheap by any means,
> Nir
>> > says
>> >> that shes a strong enough rider to be able to sit on anything,
>> > and
>> >> makes it work by riding other people's fancy horses. As a
> grown-up,
>> > she
>> >> says the superficial values that made horseback riding slightly
>> > icky
>> >> back when she was younger mostly seems to have disappeared.
> Yennie
>> >> Solheim, another rider who works at Google and has been riding
>> > steadily
>> >> since she was a young girl, adds that as a teen, there was a lot
> of
>> >> pressure to have this fancy helmet, and that fancy riding coat.
>> > For me,
>> >> now, riding is purely a way for me to relax; it's a getaway.
>> >
>> >
>> >> As young girls, the barn offered the same thing. I was less
>> > interested
>> >> in boys than my friends were, DiSclafani says, and didn't,
> like,
>> > love
>> >> middle or high school. The barn was a total refuge. (Like her,
> and
>> > all
>> >> who rode, really, Christine Quinn writes in her new memoir that
>> >> horseback riding was the activity that sustained her as a
>> > teenager).
>> >
>> >
>> >> But the sexy stuff is unavoidable. This might be an
>> > oversimplification,
>> >> but girls have a lot of sexual energy at that time, and being
>> > obsessed
>> >> with horses was one way to direct that, DiSclafani adds. Looking
>> > back
>> >> on my early teens, my friends and I definitely used to talk about
>> > horses
>> >> like we talked about boys (whom we were definitely not talking
> to):
>> >> Wasnt Toy just so cute today? Sarah rode Lucky, and it was so
>> > clear he
>> >> didnt like her! Windy and I just really have such good
> chemistry.
>> > It's
>> >> no coincidence that Yonahlossee, a bildungsroman set during the
>> >> Depression about a young girl whose wealthy family sends her away
>> > to a
>> >> horse-centric boarding school, charts her relationship with an
>> > older man
>> >> as she becomes a more competitive horseback rider. As she
> becomes
>> > more
>> >> interested in the world of sex, she becomes a better rider, and
>> > riding
>> >> is an even more important part of her life, DiSclafani says.
>> >
>> > Ad a Midwestern farm girl, none of this applies to my world nor
> anyone
>> > else I know from these parts. My perspective is from firsthand
> knowledge
>> > and experience, not fantasy magazine articles.
>> > Can we equate a boy's love of fast cars as a sexual substitute as
> well,
>> > for that matter?
>
>
>> In some cases we might I suppose, though their puberty has unique
> facets
>> to it.
>
>
>> So?
>
>
>> What's so threatening about the horse article anyway?
>
>
>> It's not your experience after all.
>
> I didn't find it threatening, nor did I find it to support Julie's
> "knowledge" of a love of horses as being something sexual. Do you own a
> dog, by the way? Surely you know what people say about women and the
> real reason they own dogs, especially those big ones. Or snakes. Or
> hamsters.
>
> Ridiculous, isn't it?
Given the prevalence of odd behaviors amongst species?
Not so much.
There was an incident not all that long ago in Washington state between
a man and a horse, I believe the man died.
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