On 2013-07-22 16:54:00 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> On 22/07/2013 12:50 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-07-22 14:32:51 +0000, Kalmia said:
>>
>>> A good Sidecar, but most barkeeps in this country just stare at you,
>>> like "Lady - what the heck is THAT?"
>>
>> True enough. For this reason there were 3 or 4 drinks that I or my wife
>> were fond of which I printed the recipes for on a small piece of paper
>> and handed it to the uninformed. One was, of course, the way I like my
>> regular martini, but got tired of giving them all the instructions since
>> "martini" means different things to every bartender.
>
> I have got the impression lately that anything served in a conical
> glass with a ling stem is a martini.

Precisely. I've taken to saying if if a chunk of cieling tile fell in
to a martini class it would be a bar's new "signature" martini.