On 8/28/2013 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:36:53 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>
>> On 8/28/2013 10:04 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:40:17 -0600, casa contenta > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/28/2013 12:37 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No restaurant makes their own tortillas around here. Chevy's had a
>>>>> mechanical tortilla maker and I don't care what anyone says about
>>>>> Chevy's - they made great tortillas.
>>>>
>>>> Darn it, you're being culturally deprived up that way, who knew? I've
>>>> found great Mexican in San Diego
>>>
>>> Honestly, I can't stand the Mexican food in San Diego. I prefer
>>> Northern California Mexican style. Labor is too expensive for a
>>> restaurant to employ anyone just to make tortillas to go in a tortilla
>>> warmer on the table. I can see them using one of these though.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaK6xCCJH9c
>>
>> Ha!
>>
>> Rube Goldberg indeed...
>>
>> I would grant you San Diego is much more beach taco veracruz vibed, but
>> I like those too.
>
> I'm good with that. Haven't been to SD since my mother moved to
> Oregon 20 or so years ago. Didn't like the old fashioned food they
> served way back when... you know I think a wet burrito is an
> abomination and SD was where I was unlucky enough to encounter it the
> first time.

Ah, wet as opposed to enchilada style?

That would be smothered in chile sauce and then melted cheese, which is
very much a southwestern constant.

>>
>>
>>>> and even up the Valley into Stockton. I
>>>> suspect that maybe the geographic reach of agriculture is a factor?
>>>> Perhaps you'd have luck in towns like Tracy and Manteca.
>>>
>>> I am rarely in that direction and when I am, I'm just passing through.
>>> I might stop at a farm stand, but that's about it.
>>
>> It was some rather industrial ag country last I was there (esp. Tracy),
>> I wonder what its like now.
>
> Due to the housing bubble, a lot of fields and orchards became
> subdivisions, but it's still essentially farm country... and some of
> the subdivisions might be plowed under one day - so it may come full
> circle.

That's recycling in action!

>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course its been a while, I assume those are still mostly ag areas
>>>> even now?
>>>
>>> Yes. You've read about the Stockton mess? They're still hit pretty
>>> hard out there.
>>>
>> Oh good grief, they were the ones with the city manager making more than
>> a CEO?
>>
>> Yes, what a sad pre-Detroit state of bonded collapse.
>>
>> Or have I conflated them with Lancaster?
>
> Stockton is the one that took public employee's retirement funds,
> floated bonds and built brand new municipal buildings that now sit
> unpaid for and empty. They're blaming the real victims and
> negotiating retirements down. It's a truly awful situation for
> retired city workers.
>
> This was obviously made before Detroit filed bankruptcy.
> Mini-Documentary: Who Took Down Stockton?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7tuv-FCGSQ
>
I've saved that link and will view it later, thanks.

Bell was the other town I was thinking of with inflated salaries, not
Lancaster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bell_scandal