"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2013-09-06 3:36 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> Personally I would prefer paying a living wage equivalent to what the
>> staff would usually earn including their tips and leave the tipping
>> up to the customer.
>>
>
> We ate in a number of places in Europe were tipping was not expected.
> Service was included in the bill, as was tax. The price on the menu was
> what you paid, and the the total of the prices of items ordered was your
> total bill. Service was good and we didn't have staff trying to hard to
> upsell.
But there, it is an honourable profession and in good restaurants, they have
been properly trained and are not trying to pay their way through uni or
treating it as a temporary job.
Graham