On 22/10/13 10:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Xeno Lith" > wrote in message
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>> On 22/10/13 8:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>>>> On 10/21/2013 12:17 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> The hot water pot we used in Wales was a gas. You put water in it and
>>>>>> the water is boiling in a few minutes. It's the fastest way to boil
>>>>>> water. Amazing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was also a clothes washer that also dried the clothes in the
>>>>>> same unit. Pretty slick. The weird part was there was no vent for the
>>>>>> dryer. How is this done? The dryer is a closed system and the air is
>>>>>> recycled. Water vapor is removed by running the air throw a
>>>>>> refrigeration coils which changes the vapor into liquid water which
>>>>>> then goes down the drain. The system doesn't work as well as a vented
>>>>>> open system but that water pot made up for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a surprise! I don't think I have been anywhere in Europe
>>>>> in the
>>>>> past 50+ years that didn't have an electric kettle! As for the
>>>>> dryer, I
>>>>> think ours are much safer. The lint filter is in the unit so has no
>>>>> chance of backing up in the wall.
>>>>>
>>>> You're probably right about the electric kettle being a ubiquitous
>>>> appliance in Europe. My guess is that it's because Europeans drink a
>>>> lot of tea. The hot drink of choice in America is coffee which
>>>> requires a brewing system, not a separate hot water kettle. OTOH, my
>>>> brother in law was quite happy when he saw the kettles in the places
>>>> we stayed. He seemed to always be drinking instant coffee. Mostly, he
>>>> has a taste for instant coffee because he spends a lot of time in a
>>>> small boat and that's what is available to him. He probably uses a 12V
>>>> immersion heater for his hot water.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the dryer goes, it's an interesting system but I can't
>>>> imagine that it would be very energy efficient. Our washer/dryer combo
>>>> could only handle a small load and it took forever to dry the load.
>>>> The containment of the lint is a good feature. Venting the hot air
>>>> does tend to create a linty mess through the hoses and ducts.
>>>>
>>>> Europeans would probably think the American's love of the ice cold
>>>> soft drink strange. When my wife and son ordered them, they'd get a
>>>> rather ordinary glass filled with a little ice, which melted in a
>>>> couple of minute. The concept of free, unlimited, refills has not
>>>> reached your shores. You might be somewhat repulsed to see people
>>>> walking around with huge 32 oz cups of ice and soft drink. I wouldn't
>>>> blame you if you did. It's a heck of a thing.
>>>
>>> Actually, my brother and SIL were in England in the 80's. They
>>> discovered a pizza hut that gave huge soft drinks and free refills.
>>>
>>> Here in WA, coffee is the big drink and most people are walking around
>>> drinking that. I'm one of the odd ones who drinks diet soda instead of
>>> coffee. I guess it all depends on where you live as to what you drink.
>>
>> Or how you value your health! Soft drinks are so loaded with sugar
>> that drinking them on any sort of regular basis will really put the
>> pounds on.
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> In my entire lifetime I mostly always consumed diet soda. I did have

I was never at ease drinking anything with a pretend sweetener in it.

> some regular at a family reunion as a kid. My uncle did buy some diet
> but not enough for us kids to have it. I hate regular soda so after
> trying to choke down a bottle or two, walked with my cousin to the store
> and bought my own Tab. Also took a few sips of it at the airport while
> in a hurry. I bought something from a machine, didn't look at it before
> drinking it and realized right away that there as a problem. I probably
> had it a time or two at some party as a kid but in those days it was
> more common to serve Kool-Aid or fruit punch.
>
> And here, most regular soda has HFC and not sugar. Jones is one
> exception and I think also Hansen's.

HFC is actually worse than sugar by about 5%. It's the fructose that
causes the issue and HFC has 5% more fructose than regular sugar.

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Xeno