On 11/27/2013 1:10 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:51:24 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 11/27/2013 11:56 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
>>
>>>> A frig should never be on a gfi circuit.
>>>
>>> Like you say, it shouldn't be. I don't know how a home warranty
>>> works, but it would be worth a try to get a separate outlet installed
>>> for the freezer.
>>
>> Home warranty works like this. You pay the warranty company money. If
>> something breaks, they spend as little as possible to get things working
>> again and keep the rest of the money. Put that $500 a year into a
>> saving account and you can handle just about anything needed around the
>> house.
>>
>> In today's money I've been a homeowner for 48 years. Paying for a
>> warranty would have been $24,000 over that time. Over the years I've
>> replaced most every appliance we have and the heater in my present
>> house. I'm about $10,000 ahead and I have the top of the line
>> appliances I want, not some cheap crap or overhaul by a warranty
>> company. Stuff wears out and then you replace it.
>>
>> GFCI outlets are required in garages as well as bathrooms and outdoors.
>> It would be against code to run a circuit out there that is not GFCI.
>> Even if you want to, it is not a warranty situation at all and they
>> would pay nothing. That is between you and the electrician.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I think new codes even require the freezer on a GFCI (in the garage),
>>> but it shouldn't be so overloaded that it trips. The freezer should
>>> be on a separate circuit, even if that separate circuit is a GFCI.
>>>
>>
>> Seems that is the case
>> http://www.esgroundingsolutions.com/...a-refrigerator
>>
>> ?In a Dwelling Unit (house or apartment) refrigerators located inside
>> the kitchen do NOT have to have a GFCI. See 210.8(A)(6), Exhibit
>> 210.13, 210.52(B)(1), 210.52(B)(2), 210.52(B)(3), and Exhibit 210.28.
>> If the circuit feeding the refrigerator outlet is branched to any other
>> outlet, it must be a 20-A circuit. If the circuit feeding the
>> refrigerator outlet is a dedicated individual circuit, than it can be
>> either 15-A or 20-A.
>> ?In a garage or an unfinished basement of a Dwelling unit, the
>> refrigerator must have a GFCI circuit. In fact ALL outlets must be GFCI
>> in garages and unfinished basements. See 210.8(A)(2) and Exhibit 210.10.
>
> This would be a good time to put the freezer on a separate outlet. It
> could save some trouble down the road.
>
> Using a hair dryer at the same time as the freezer cycles on could
> easily cause a trip. Of course, if she was drying her hair when the
> breaker tripped, she would be aware of it.
>
LOLOL I don't use a dryer on my hair. All I did was try to turn on the
light over the toilet in the master bathroom. It didn't come on, so I
tried the lights over the bathtub. Nope. That's when I knew (from the
only other time this happened, a couple of months ago) uh oh, the
freezer is off.

> If she could convince the electrician when he comes out that the
> freezer should be on a separate circuit, she may get it done for free.
> (I know this is a low probability)

I'll have them find the problem and get it fixed. I'm pretty sure I can
get a good deal. It's probably the aged light fixtures in the
bathroom. Not to worry. Meanwhile, the freezer is running again and I
didn't lose any food. That was my main concern.

Jill