Larry Smith > wrote in
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>> Twenty years ago, the Muslims were your allies [...]
>>
>> Now they're your enemies. How did that happen? Who ****ed up?
>
> "Muslims" are not the enemy. "Muslims who want to kill
> Americans for Allah" are the enemy. Always have been,
> always will be.

I wonder how you can distinguish between them. You've already made
it clear you believe that Islam teaches violence. Muslims are
followers of Islam. Therefore, in your mind, they are being taught
violence. So, where do the non-violent Muslims come from?

> I do not believe the US is doing anything to
> increase their numbers, it is merely a convenient scape-
> goat.

But do you believe that the US could be conceived of as a social and
religious irritant in the Middle East?

>> Can't you see you're being manipulated? No, it's not the Jews,
>> it's those right-wing Christian arseholes.
>
> Human beings manipulate each other. The manipulation of
> those "right-wing Christian arseholes" is no more
> egregious than is that of the left-wing atheist arseholes.

Well, at least you admit to being manipulated. It's a start.

> People are manipulated only when they _want_ to be
> manipulated. Americans were scared shitless after
> 9/11, they want to have all the symbols of security.
> And so that's what the gov't gives them. Symbols,
> not security. It doesn't matter in the slightest
> who is president. The end result is always the same.
> Populus vult decipi.

Yes, and Ta zoa trexei...what about it? Just because it can be
thought to be widespread does not justify it. If you don't believe
Muslims are justified in their hatred of you (which I believe is your
basic point and it may be correct, I'm not arguing that), then it
follows that you must believe that hatred of them (or even strong
dislike) is unjustified as well.

Sublata causa, tollitur effectus.

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Please note that this post contains no overt anti-USAian statements
of any sort, nor is it designed to excite the political passions of
the morally bankrupt right-wing supporters of the emerging fascist
states...unfortunately :-)