On 2014-05-31 18:42:33 +0000, Kalmia said:

> On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:34:48 PM UTC-4, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>> On 2014-05-30 13:38:59 +0000, pltrgyst said:
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>>> On 5/29/14, 7:43 PM, Kalmia wrote:
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>>>> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
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>>>>> I prefer either percolator coffee or French press, and to me the
>>>>> French>> >>> press seems easier than those k-cup machines.
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>>> Well, the liking for percolator coffee disqualifies you from any sane>>
>>> > discussion.
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>>>> I'm with you. I own two Frenchies - one for reg, one for decaf. I
>>>> get>> >> about 60 cups of coffee out of a 12 oz. bag of beans. Try
>>>> THAT, K-cups.
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>>> The point of K-cups or Nespresso pods is convenience, not making the>>
>>> > ultimate quality coffee.
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>>>> Plus, with the Frenchie, I can regulate the heat of the water, the>> >
>>>> fineness of the grind, the amt of coffee and so on.
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>>> That's all true, but you shouldn't need to adjust water temp -- there>>
>>> > is a proven optimum brewing temp, 204 deg. F.
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>>> And again, the whole point of pods is convenience. With my Nespresso,
>>> I>> > switch it on, and it's ready to brew in 25 seconds; it has
>>> completed>> > brewing in less than another 30 seconds. (That timing is
>>> attainable>> > even with refillable pods.)
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>>> That's under one minute from deciding to have coffee, to sitting down>>
>>> > with a decent cup. By then, your water hasn't even come to a boil,
>>> let>> > alone brewed for 3-4 minutes.
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>>> Which is why my Gaggia Classic, Jura E750 espresso machine, French>> >
>>> press pots, etc. are mostly collecting dust these days...
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>>> -- Larry
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>> Good coffee takes a little time. How long does it really take to
>> make>> a French press?
> After I heat my water to 190 F., I pour a bit into the grounds, swirl
> for a few secs, add the rest of the water, then busy myself for the
> next 10 mins. with bedmaking, ambling out for the paper, a bit of
> recycling and picking up, and general b'fast prep etc. I don't get the
> big rush everyone seems to be in.

I don't understand it either. I suppose it's the same attitude that
gave us microwave cookery.