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Caramelized Onions in Crockpot
"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
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>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
om...
>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>>>> > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:30:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
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>>>> > > That made no sense to me either. And I simply can't have a
>>>> > > portable unit because I have no way to securely vent it outside.
>>>> > > I can't do it out a window and can't think of a wall space where
>>>> > > it could be done. Nor would I want to put a hole in my wall
>>>> > > because as I said, most years it would never get used!
>>>> >
>>>> > Why are you disregarding the floor unit type? It is not dependent
>>>> > on being in a window. My DD had one (similar to what Jill posted)
>>>> > in the living room of an 800 square foot house. Your house is a
>>>> > lot bigger with an open floor plan, so you have plenty of space to
>>>> > find a place to put one somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> As I have said countless times. Those need to be vented outside.
>>>> The usual way is to open a window and vent it out there. Not an
>>>> option for me. You can't have a screen and/or hardware cloth over
>>>> the window to do that. I also fail to see how that would work with
>>>> the large windows that I have even if I were willing to do that. The
>>>> window would still be open from nearly top to bottom and that would
>>>> just let the hot air in.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't do that, you then have to cut a hole in the wall. I
>>>> don't want a hole cut in my wall for something we might go for 2
>>>> years without using at all.
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>>>> Our house is 1700 sq. ft.
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>>> Julie, They work fine through screens. Also whatever the cloth is you
>>> put up. if air flows through, you vent it there just fine. You can pull
>>> them out at night because they are not a permanent install.
>>>
>>> We have 2 units like that. One has a home built extension and fits to
>>> a patio door to hold the exaust vent, the other fits a standard small
>>> window. When the HVAC died in 95F weather last year, we borrowed a
>>> small window unit for the only window we had that could take one easily
>>> (ours slide to the side but this one is a standard up and down and
>>> secure location at the back of the house inside an 8ft fenced yard).
>>>
>>> Running just one in the livingroom cut it to about 82F. Running all 3
>>> with wise use of directional fans, cut the whole house to 78F even at
>>> the worst of the day.
>>>
>>> I'm 1,980 sqft here. I've since finished off the garage so am about
>>> 2,300 sqft but we haven't upgraded the HVAC yet to keep up with that so
>>> use 2 portables for ancillary cooling on the hottest days.
>>>
>>> May I suggest it's more functional to look to how to solve a problem
>>> than why you cant solve it?
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>>It's people HERE who are saying it is a problem! I am saying that it's
>>*not* a problem but everyone is trying to make it one.
>>People here generally do not *want* AC.
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> Sour grapes/cheapo *******s.
>
>>I have ordered a swamp cooler. It was supposed to come today but now they
>>say tomorrow.  So we'll see how it does.
>
> A disease generator.
Wrong.
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