On 8/16/2014 3:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>> On 8/15/2014 4:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>> On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past
>>>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Landie?
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>>>>>>> Mitsubishi
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hah!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Outlander?
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>>>>> Shogun.
>>>>>
>>>> Not in our market, but rather attractive.
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>>>> Diesel?
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>>>> For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.
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>>> Yes 2.8 diesel. DH has a 2.8 Pajero diesel. They are both Jap imports
>>> and basically the same car, but mine is short wheelbase and his long.
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>>> I had a Shogun for many years but it died and I got another car thinking
>>> the mileage might be better but ... I had to sell it and get a Shogun
>>> again) I won't change again)
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>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
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> Shogun 25 mpg urban, 28 mpg distance
> Pajero 23 mpg urban 25 mpg distance
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> Not much in it.
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> Whatever the load, or whatever distance towing, makes no difference
> whatever
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That's good old diesel for you!

>> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it
>> only lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
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> They seem very popular around the areas we go.

America lags in this area, quite a bit.

We only got low sulfur diesel standards very recently.