On 9/6/2014 6:41 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 15:32:22 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/6/2014 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:20:54 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> was listening to a report about a city in USA which is nearly bankrupt.
>>>> Many people have lost their jobs and are finding things so hard they cannot
>>>> afford their water bills and their supply is being turned off I would
>>>> like to think that they can find such generous folk as those here, so that
>>>> at least their children can get breakfast!
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember the name, I think it began with a B.
>>>
>>> Detroit is a glaring example, but many cities are on the precipice.
>>>
>>>
>> It was mentioned before, perhaps you recall the name of the California
>> city with they absurdly high salaries for the city administrators?
>
> Sorry, I don't. It's a very small "city" somewhere in the LA area.
> Maybe this is it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Bell_scandal

Yes, that IS the one I was thinking of.

> Both
> Stockton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton,_California
> and
> Vallejo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vallejo,_California
> went bankrupt, but the state didn't manipulate them into bankruptcy
> and California didn't throw out the constitution by removing elected
> officials from office and installing an emergency manager as a
> dictator who does not answer directly to the local voters. See Benton
> Harbor, Michigan.

I'll research that, thanks.


> Oakland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California
> is slowly climbing out of the financial mess it was in - a lot of the
> improvement is due to gentrification. Families (and businesses) that
> can't afford San Francisco and the peninsula locate over there.

Very positive.

> The entire state of California was in a huge mess after the Enron
> scandal and further mishandling of state finances by the Governator.

And don't forget Gray Davis and your state assembly mandating utilities
sell off generation assets and buy spot power.

> Thanks to belt tightening by Jerry Brown, the budget crisis is almost
> over.

I've read some analysis that suggests it's only been forwarded.

> Too bad California lost the Tesla battery "gigafactory" bid,
> but he wasn't prepared to give away the farm by way of incentive
> packages to gain unskilled labor jobs that pay basically minimum wage.
> We don't need to support any more people at the poverty level.

But what you DO need is as many Supercharger stations as you can get and
the Gigafactory would have dovetailed nicely with your Tesla assembly plant.

Critical mass is nothing to wave across the border.

Btw, I knew NM was only being used as a stalking horse.

The backup plant will either land in Arizona or Texas, if it is built -
my opinion.