On 2014-11-15 21:22, graham wrote:
> On 15/11/2014 5:48 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:52:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:02:13 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/11/2014 3:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to wonder what sort of crap people are fed at home that they
>>>>> would like fast food burgers. My mother was very competent in the
>>>>> kitchen... in the days when women stayed home and cooked. I was never
>>>>> impressed with fast food. My brothers and I learned to cook. My son
>>>>> was raised on good food and worked for a while in restaurants. He
>>>>> is not
>>>>> at all into fast food.
>>>>
>>>> FFS they are children! They certainly eat well at home and I like the
>>>> burgers there even though I'm not a devotee of fat food restos (Im
>>>> cooking a brace of pheasants with port and redcurrant jelly this w/e).
>>>> I also take them to conventional restaurants where they can interact
>>>> with the waiter and order their own choices.
>>>
>>> I'm firmly on your side, Graham. My own grandchildren's parents never
>>> take them to a FF restaurant (nor does my husband) - that's my
>>> territory. They don't even ask me, I'm the one who suggests it! They
>>> are learning to cook from scratch with me and their parents and I
>>> don't experience a shred of guilt when I take them because all have
>>> healthy eating habits.
>>
>> Going to a fast food restaurant occasionally does no harm. It's
>> better than making the kids feel smug and superior to other kids, or
>> making them feel out of step with other kids and inevitably causing
>> them to sneak ff and lie about it.
>> Janet US
>>
> Some years ago my grandchildren decided that McDo was not for them. It
> was their decision after they had discussed *their* reasons (very valid
> ones, I might add) between themselves.
> I encourage them to argue with me, respectfully of course. It engenders
> independent and critical thinking.
>

Hmmm did they wonder if it is better than feeling smug and superior to
other kids, and making them feel out of step with other kids and
inevitably causing them to sneak ff and lie about it as Janet sees it?