"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, 25 May 2015 15:44:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> >>> In your opinion it is good. The bread that I make takes many
>> >>> hours. Not 5 minutes and as I have said many times before, I do
>> >>> not like bread from a bread machine.
>> > >
>> > > So, you have somewhere to buy bread just like the bread that
>> > > takes you five hours to bake? If not, then the comparison is
>> > > invalid.
>> >
>> > I am having fun trying to imagine a bread maker so bad that it takes
>> > them actually 5 hours actual time to make bread. With a bread
>> > machine, you spend 5 minutes of your time for a basic bread. If
>> > you take it out in dough mode and bake it outside of the machine to
>> > rolls and such, add 10 minutes.
>> >
>> As I have said countless times before. I had a bread machine. I
>> don't have it any more. I hated the thing on so many levels. I
>> tried using it several times and it only ever produced one loaf that
>> was edible. But the loaves were rather useless. The design made a
>> strange, tiny loaf with a hole in the bottom. Could not be used for
>> sandwiches ever.
>
> In other words, you chose to not learn how to use it which is fine.
> Many prefer to hand make it. People with a little patience do learn
> them well and they are time savers.
>
>>
>> And I had to keep babysitting it becaue it moved all over the
>> counter. It was very noisy too.
>
> Put a towel under it.
>
>>
>> > It was a given that rising time is needed. ANYONE who makes bread
>> > knows that.
>>
>> And that would have to be factored into the time. Right? I remember
>> when my parents got their first microwave. My mom had a cookbook and
>> it said you could make fudge in something like 10 minutes. My
>> brother wanted me to make it. I did. Imagine his disappointment
>> when I took it out, put it in a pan and then it had to chill for many
>> hours. He thought it would be ready to eat when I took it out.
>
> Well be real Julie. You don't make '5 hour bread'. That indicates you
> were working on the bread for all that 5 hours. In reality, you
> probably took a nap or something and all that.
>
> With a machine in dough mode, you load it in 5-10 minutes (depends on
> the recipe) then come back 1.5-2 hours later to shape it to loaves,
> rise another hour or so then bake.
>
>> >
>> > Contact time is less with a machine. Results are better than store
>> > bread by far.
>>
>> Who cares? And no, mine certainly wasn't better at all.
>
> Thats because you didn't learn how to use the tool. It's not the fault
> of the tool.

Nonsense! How could one not know how to use a plug and play thing. It was
very self explanatory. Why is it that some people here seem to think that
their way is not only the best way but the only way?