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On 7/23/2015 1:15 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:27:55 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/22/2015 5:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:57:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:31:28 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:23:04 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/22/2015 3:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:42:06 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/22/2015 2:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:47:19 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, all fruits and vegetables in the stores are "designer"
>>>>>>>>>>> and created to be bigger and/or grow faster and/or be nicer looking
>>>>>>>>>>> and/or tastier and/or resistant to bugs and diseases. Nobody sells
>>>>>>>>>>> produce that wasn't designed to be sold in mass quantities to large
>>>>>>>>>>> numbers of people. "Designer" = Genetically Modified Organism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's a big difference between natural selection and genetic
>>>>>>>>>> modification.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There ain't nothing natural about the fruits that are available in the
>>>>>>>>> supermarket. Nobody should ever call it "natural selection." It simply
>>>>>>>>> is not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said all store bought fruits and vegetables are genetically
>>>>>>>> modified. Do you really think that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you check out wild plants, their fruits are typically tiny. There's
>>>>>>> probably some reason why nature does this but mostly, that ain't
>>>>>>> commercial grade food. My guess is that all our livestock that produce
>>>>>>> meats and other products are bred for characteristics men want. Most of
>>>>>>> our dogs and cats are totally genetically modified - they are
>>>>>>> abominations of nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Genetic modification has been around for thousands of years - it's
>>>>>>> probably our oldest science. One thing is for sure, mankind will never.
>>>>>>> quit messing around with the genes of the plants and animals that he
>>>>>>> lives with - that's in our genes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would help if you read the first paragraph of this:
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise you'll keep repeating the same misunderstanding with
>>>>>> everybody you talk to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree that genetic modification and genetic engineering is the same thing.
>>>>> So let's just say you're talking about genetic engineering. As it goes, all our
>>>>> foods have been genetically modified. Some of it has been genetically engineered.
>>>>
>>>> So whenever you see GM or non-GM on a food item, you completely
>>>> misunderstand what they're saying.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Aloha understands everything. My point is simple: the world would be
>>> a very strange place if man did not modify plants and animals
>>> genetically to suit his needs. If man completely disappeared, much of
>>> the plants and animals would turn into things foreign to us in a short
>>> period.
>>>
>>> Aloha! 
>>
>> Let's both pretend Mr Aloha wasn't wrong. You'll sleep better 
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>
> What part don't you understand? I merely state facts.
>
Well...THAT was your first mistake!
;-)
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