On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:15:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-10, Dr. Edward Morbius wrote:
>> On 7/23/2015 11:34 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 7:17:34 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 00:35:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 7:15:38 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:47:19 -1000, dsi1
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> As far as I know, all fruits and vegetables in the stores are "designer"
>> >>>>> and created to be bigger and/or grow faster and/or be nicer looking
>> >>>>> and/or tastier and/or resistant to bugs and diseases. Nobody sells
>> >>>>> produce that wasn't designed to be sold in mass quantities to large
>> >>>>> numbers of people. "Designer" = Genetically Modified Organism.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There's a big difference between the selective breeding process and
>> >>>> genetically modifying organisms in a lab.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>>
>> >>>> sf
>> >>>
>> >>> In the end, the goals are all the same - to produce a better dog or fruit or flower. We could create monsters but a Dalmatian or a modern turkey could be considered monstrosities. We don't consider them as such but undoubtedly they are most unlikely creatures.
>> >>>
>> >>> New technology always frightens people - the GMO hysteria is no different. As it goes, the new trend in the country is to distrust science and technology. The Hawaiians are up in arms about the genetically engineered sunrise papaya and a new telescope on the big island. I can't say what the problem is with building a telescope on a mountain full of telescopes but the papaya is just wonderfully tasty.
>> >>
>> >> The main objection to GMO plants is the use of the main chemical in
>> >> Roundup. I think a lot of latecomers to the bandwagon have either
>> >> lost touch with that or never knew it in the first place.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> sf
>> >
>> > Roundup works by interfering with the process of photosynthesis in plants. I don't think roundup is much of a problem health-wise. Its benefits to mankind has been great. Agent Orange it ain't. Even DDT has saved countless lives. In the end, you have to weigh the benefits against the problems. This groups likes to see only problems. I think the whole world is turning fearful.
>> >
>> The phenomenon of so-called "terminator seeds" will do that to one.
>>
>> The issue isn't cost/benefit, it's what gets lost beneath a given price
>> point movement.
>>
>> I mix Dawn dish liquid into my Roundup so it stays on the weeds longer.
>>
>> Sure works too.
>
>I have never heard of mixing soap with Roundup. That's interesting. I don't use the stuff myself. I have to pull weeds.

Professionals either add a surfactant when mixing their liquid
fertilizers or weed controls or their products come with a surfactant
in them. Liquid soap does essentially the same thing.
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