On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
>
> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
>
>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
>
> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong), but
> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
>
> nb
>

When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered to be
putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young folks
have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the Japanese
call soy sauce "shoyu."