On 8/7/2015 2:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
>>
>>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
>>
>> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
>> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
>>
>>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
>>
>> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
>> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
>> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
>> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong), but
>> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
>>
>> nb
>>
>
> When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered to be
> putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young folks
> have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the Japanese
> call soy sauce "shoyu."


The favorite here is Ponzu sauce, hard to beat citrus with soy.