On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:29:44 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:40:59 PM UTC-10, Japhy Ryder wrote:
> > > On 8/7/2015 2:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
> > > >> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
> > > >>
> > > >> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
> > > >> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
> > > >>
> > > >>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
> > > >> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
> > > >> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
> > > >> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong), but
> > > >> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
> > > >>
> > > >> nb
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered to be
> > > > putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young folks
> > > > have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the Japanese
> > > > call soy sauce "shoyu."
> > >
> > >
> > > The favorite here is Ponzu sauce, hard to beat citrus with soy.
> >
> > I like it too. It's great for folks that find regular shoyu to be too salty. It's what "lite" shoyu should be but isn't.
>
> Sounds like just another "Ponzu scheme" to me.

If only Ponzi schemes could be as delicious!