On 8/8/2015 12:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:29:44 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:40:59 PM UTC-10, Japhy Ryder wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/2015 2:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
>>>>>> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
>>>>>> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
>>>>>> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
>>>>>> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong), but
>>>>>> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered to be
>>>>> putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young folks
>>>>> have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the Japanese
>>>>> call soy sauce "shoyu."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The favorite here is Ponzu sauce, hard to beat citrus with soy.
>>>
>>> I like it too. It's great for folks that find regular shoyu to be too salty. It's what "lite" shoyu should be but isn't.
>>
>> Sounds like just another "Ponzu scheme" to me.
>
> If only Ponzi schemes could be as delicious!
>

I guess it all depends on how well you made off...