On 8/8/2015 9:21 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
> On 8/8/2015 12:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-10,
>> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:29:44 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:40:59 PM UTC-10, Japhy Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On 8/7/2015 2:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
>>>>>>> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
>>>>>>> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
>>>>>>> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
>>>>>>> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong), but
>>>>>>> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered to be
>>>>>> putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young folks
>>>>>> have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the
>>>>>> Japanese
>>>>>> call soy sauce "shoyu."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The favorite here is Ponzu sauce, hard to beat citrus with soy.
>>>>
>>>> I like it too. It's great for folks that find regular shoyu to be
>>>> too salty. It's what "lite" shoyu should be but isn't.
>>>
>>> Sounds like just another "Ponzu scheme" to me.
>>
>> If only Ponzi schemes could be as delicious!
>>
>
> I guess it all depends on how well you made off...

Hee hee. My guess is that every town has their own smooth-talking,
high-living, Ponzi master that, sooner or later, gets caught, serves
time in prison, and then moves to LA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Rewald