On 8/8/2015 3:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/8/2015 9:21 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
>> On 8/8/2015 12:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 8:09:53 AM UTC-10,
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:29:44 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:40:59 PM UTC-10, Japhy Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/7/2015 2:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/7/2015 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-07, dsi1 > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're the one that brings up the idea that umami is not real.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, I brought up the idea that the term "umami" may be
>>>>>>>> unnecessary and was asking for opinions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that for most Americans, umami is not real.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it's only the term "umami" that is unreal for Americans,
>>>>>>>> despite the fact we've been eating it for decades. Kinda like the
>>>>>>>> term "shoyu", which I've never heard from anyone, but yerself, my
>>>>>>>> entire life. I've heard of "umami" (though I spelled it wrong),
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> never "shoyu", depite enjoying my first soy sauce over 60 yrs ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was growing up, calling shoyu "soy sauce" was considered
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> putting on airs and talking like a haole. These days, the young
>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> have no problem with "soy sauce." Mostly, old Hawaiians and the
>>>>>>> Japanese
>>>>>>> call soy sauce "shoyu."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The favorite here is Ponzu sauce, hard to beat citrus with soy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it too. It's great for folks that find regular shoyu to be
>>>>> too salty. It's what "lite" shoyu should be but isn't.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like just another "Ponzu scheme" to me.
>>>
>>> If only Ponzi schemes could be as delicious!
>>>
>>
>> I guess it all depends on how well you made off...
>
> Hee hee. My guess is that every town has their own smooth-talking,
> high-living, Ponzi master that, sooner or later, gets caught, serves
> time in prison, and then moves to LA.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Rewald

"As of 2010, Rewald lives in Los Angeles and works as director of
operations for the APA talent agency in Beverly Hills."

There is a certain terrible symmetry to the arc of this man's life.