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Cantonese cooking
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:50:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"Xeno" > wrote in message
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>> On 22/08/2015 12:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Xeno" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 21/08/2015 9:33 PM,
wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:59:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:15:00 PM UTC-10, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 21/08/2015 6:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 9:40:13 PM UTC-10, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2015 5:36 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:14:13 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/20/2015 8:39 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2015 3:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/20/2015 5:12 PM, Timo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:56:07 AM UTC+10, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beat me why I could do it and others not. I'd flip the fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ring so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wok was at the lowest point. I think I'd prefer an electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than a gas one because the gas ranges I've seen give off a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weak-ass flame. I hate that! That's the breaks, I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good electric will beat puny gas. On electric, I find my wok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets hot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. If I dump too much stuff in at once, it'll cool down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the simple solution is to not dump too much stuff in at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat bottom cast iron wok is heavier than my round bottom one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps it not cool down to much when adding stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would seem that the glass cooktop effectively puts the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kibosh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> round bottom wok. A Chinese cook without a wok is a very sad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A Chinese cook without a wok is not a Chinese cook. It is that
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect that you might be retarded.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You find it near impossible to admit you're wrong, don't you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems that way, sadly..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Xeno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly am I wrong about? Let me know and I shall apologize.
>>>>>>>> Hoo
>>>>>>>> hoo, this could be your lucky day!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just go round the Asian restaurants in your locality and check out
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> many electric woks are in use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A wok needs to be of a thin material to transfer the heat evenly and
>>>>>>> quickly. If you use a flat bottomed wok, for use on an electric
>>>>>>> range,
>>>>>>> you've just naffed that feature! That's because the only part of the
>>>>>>> wok
>>>>>>> that will be heating up will be the flat part in contact with the
>>>>>>> electric element. Any heat up the sides of the wok will, of
>>>>>>> necessity,
>>>>>>> be required to get there by "conduction". This will be relatively
>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>> Therefore you've just naffed another feature of the wok. If your
>>>>>>> wok is
>>>>>>> a thin flat bottomed wok, you won't have the traditional wok
>>>>>>> "internal"
>>>>>>> shape so using the traditional wok utensils will be more of a
>>>>>>> challenge.
>>>>>>> Naffed again. If you have an electric wok, odds are that it will
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> heavy chunk of metal at the base where the heating elements are. That
>>>>>>> will mean that heating up will be slow. Naffed yet again. If you're
>>>>>>> using a wok with a non-stick finish, you will find that the heat
>>>>>>> required to wok cook properly will destroy the non-stick finish in no
>>>>>>> time at all. We "condition" our woks when we first buy them so we
>>>>>>> develop our own "traditional" non-stick finish and, believe me, it
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not saying that you can't stir fry on an electric. You can but
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> won't be able to do it the way Asian people do. That means your end
>>>>>>> result will be compromised and the way that it will be compromised
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be in the taste test. You might find your wok cooked food tastes OK
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> your palate but, let me assure you, most Asians will find it lacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xeno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the heck does your ranting have to do with me? I repeat my
>>>>>> question, exactly what did I say that was wrong? I don't have a lot of
>>>>>> time to waste while you dick around.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has to do with you declaring an electric wok is the epitome of
>>>>> Chinese cooking, which it would seem you know next to nothing about -
>>>>> - -
>>>> Sorry if what I have been on about seems to be a rant. That was not my
>>>> intention. I just felt I needed to clear up a few misapprehensions about
>>>> wok cooking based on what I have seen over the past 4 decades.
>>>
>>> If MrD is happy wokking on his electric thingy and it works for him ...
>>> why not? We don't all have the same preferences eh?
>>>
>>>
>> It's really not a matter of preference. One method works perfectly, the
>> other is, at best, a kludge. When we first moved in here, we were in the
>> situation where we had only the electric stove and a flat based wok. My
>> wife very soon tired of the compromises involved and a gas wok burner
>> resolved the issue. We were able to put our trusty old standard wok back
>> into service and my wife was happy. What was that saying? Happy wife,
>> happy life! You better believe it!
>>
>> The use of an electric stove for wok cooking needs to be seen as a
>> compromise situation only. It has major limitations and is far from ideal
>> and therefore should not be touted as anything other than a compromise.
>
>I don't know, but is gas allowed in a condo? Not necessarily Mr D, but
>maybe some folk have to do the best with what they have and you can lecture
>them till you are blue in the fact but it still doesn't mean they can have
>what you prefer.
In many areas of the US condos have natural gas. Many condos do allow
propane gas grills and allow bottled propane for kitchen stoves too.
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