On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 17:30:12 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 06/10/2015 4:12 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2015 22:02:41 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You've obviously never worked with engineers. "Engineering-minded and
>>> practical" is an oxymoron.
>>
>> The first thing I thought of when reading your comment was British
>> cars from the 50's, 60's and 70's. If they could find a way to
>> unnecessarily complicate and/or makes things difficult for no good
>> reason - that was the way to go apparently.
>>
>Then you should have worked on my 1980s Olds Cutlas! That had
>unnecessarily complicated bits too!

Heh, I don't doubt it for a second I much prefer Japanese
engineered and built cars myself, my only gripe at times is that you
need extremely dextrous and tiny hands to get at things sometimes.

Still, any late model car is now pretty much beyond the abilities of
the backyard mechanic. Why is why I prefer older model cars for the
most part. My Subaru Forester GT was built in 2001, and even on that
most things I won't do myself, unless it's brakes or general
maintenance. I have three Toyota Hiluxes, which are entirely different
propositions - nothing is complicated and I can do all work on them at
home.