On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:33:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 11/19/2015 7:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> Not adding cream and/or sugar brings about a new coffee taste experience
>> for sure. C&S does make for a smoother cup but it tends to mask the
>> differences in the beans. They are the great equalizers, but in this
>> case, it's not necessarily a good thing.
>
>If the coffee is really good you don't have to make it smoother. I've
>tried a few here and there but I just don't care for it, even very good
>coffee. I use good loose tea and enjoy it much more.
>
>Iced coffee is really nasty to me.

Maybe you haven't had properly made iced coffee... I make it with
Bustello espresso, I have it black with no sweetener, it's very good.
You might want to try Manhatten Special, a real coffee lovers
beverage, I only like the original, probably because that's all there
was years ago when I first began drinking it... used to be sold in 7
ounce refillable glass deposit bottles:
https://www.manhattanspecial.com/
Stewart's Shops sells three different coffee ice creams, all
excellent:
http://www.stewartsshops.com/special...ors/ice-cream/