On 30/12/2015 6:12 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 2:25:17 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 19:32:39 -0700, la llorona > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/24/2015 1:14 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:42:08 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 10:43:26 PM UTC-5,
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $10/hr for minimum wage entry level jobs for a person with
>>>> minimal >>>>> education and no skills is darn good money... how
>>>> much would you pay >>>>> for someone to sweep your floors, dust
>>>> your shelves, and retrieve >>>>> shopping carts...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pay my housecleaner about $40 per hour. Cash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't believe you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It really doesn't matter what you believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does it matter to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Cindy tip you too?
>>>>
>>>> If I were paid $40/hr to clean a house I'd bust my butt to make it
>>>> spotless, I'd even work overtime for straight pay; I'd launder
>>>> clothes, detail your car, scrub bathrooms, I'd even clean your cat's
>>>> litter pans and cook for you too, same as everything I do at home,
>>>> for $40/hr I'd mow your lawn and trim m'lady's bush! LOL
>>>> Around here people get paid between $10-$15 an hour to clean house.
>>>
>>> Prices for everything are much higher here, including housecleaning.
>>> The average price per square foot of single-family housing in Ann
>>> Arbor is $180. How does that compare with your area?
>>>
>>> The deal is, she cleans $80 worth. Kitchen, bath, cleaning the
>>> hardwood floors, vacuuming the area rugs, and dusting. In that order
>>> of priority. No overtime, except by prior arrangement.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> 40$ an hour at 40 hours a week is 83,200$ a year before tax.
>
> Except that cleaning isn't like working in the same office all day
> every day on an hourly rate.
>
> the cleaner isn't paid for travel time to Cindy's place or between
> clients, or for her lunch break, or days off; and her other clients
> might pay less than 40 but have some other advantage (close to home,
> easy work).
>
> Janet UK
>
It always annoys me when people think that self-employed people are
making a good living, or even an exceptional one on a particular hourly
rate.
They *never* take into account:
Travel time
sick time
vacation time
public holidays
The fact that there are 5 work days per week
liability insurance costs
health insurance
Provision for pension
Depreciation if there is machinery involved (think lawn maintenance/snow
clearing etc)
Office overheads
Accounting and tax preparation costs

When I ran a consultancy, our charge-out rates were based on dividing
the reasonable, market rate salary for a particular employee by 220 to
arrive at a day rate before adding a reasonable 15% for profit.
My professional organisation advised a minimum of 2.5 times base salary
as a charge out rate divided by the number of work days available.
That is 365 minus 104(weekends) minus 15 (vacation) minus 5 (sick days)
minus 5 days (professional development).
Of course, lawyers charge what they like because nobody has the courage
to challenge them. My b-i-l's lawyer nephew charges $1500 PER HOUR!!!!
Graham