On 1/11/2016 6:47 AM, cibola de oro wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do oro
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do
>>>>>>>>>>>> oro
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great
>>>>>>>>>>>>> music.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people
>>>>>>>>>>>> around you
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and
>>>>>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a
>>>>>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under many radars:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our
>>>>>>>>>>>> history with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeppers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic
>>>>>>>>>>>> Telecaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to -
>>>>>>>>>> as long
>>>>>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation.
>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7
>>>>>>>> tubes,
>>>>>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around $140 a
>>>>>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a
>>>>>>>> Telecaster
>>>>>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as
>>>>>>>> all shit!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge
>>>>>>> (most
>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little
>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the
>>>>>>> bridge
>>>>>>> cover
>>>>>>> is so, so pretty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure
>>>>>>> that real
>>>>>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song
>>>>>>> hack
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands, and
>>>>>>> in 1st
>>>>>>> position the neck feels really nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it
>>>>>>> would make
>>>>>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one.
>>>>>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters.
>>>>>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a
>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area
>>>>>> of an
>>>>>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup.
>>>>>> This was
>>>>>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some
>>>>>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be
>>>>>> noisy
>>>>>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the
>>>>>> lap
>>>>>> steel player's picking hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after
>>>>> market now?
>>>>
>>>> A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a
>>>> design Fender developed in the 40's.
>>>
>>> True day - the reissue market is strong.
>>>
>>>> The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller
>>>> sounding, and stronger.
>>>
>>> Far more, yes.
>>>
>>>> The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock
>>>> but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like
>>>> the Stones.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you wanted a Rickenbacker!
>>>
>>> Who didn't?
>>>
>>>>> Well....
>>>>>
>>>>> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a
>>>> good choice on a Tele - I think.
>>>
>>> I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now!
>>>
>>> Consider:
>>>
>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge
>>>
>>> or...
>>>
>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele
>>>
>>> hmmm....
>>
>> The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work,
>> although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge
>> install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal
>> range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however...
>
> Fair point, to much tonal range on an archtop will lead to unpleasant
> harmonics, iirc.
>
> I wonder of that's why Fender chose not to use single pole pickups on
> the f-hole Tele Thinlines?
>
> I think those preceded the single pole models, but maybe not...
>

The way I remember it was the Fender wanted their guitars to sound more
like Gibsons so in the 70's, they made Telecasters with humbucking
pickups. It was a good way to increase the appeal of their guitars.

I had a Gibson Firebird during the 70's. It was a big ugly green guitar
with a harsh, unpleasant, voice. It didn't suit me but it would fit in
well with a young bluesman with an aggressive attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPBtZSnagsA

>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php
>
>
> I'm going to bridge this reply to another one you may have missed, what
> are your thoughts on:
>
> Man, they can virtualize ANY thing these days!
>
> http://www.gizmag.com/virtual-jeff-e...mmy-bar/41249/
>
> The Virtual Jeff is not a mechanical vibrato system, but an electronic
> one. Players use it like a traditional whammy bar, but digital pitch
> control is used to massage the output for pitch-perfect, error-free
> shimmers, dips, dives and squeals. It can be retrofitted to almost any
> guitar, including acoustics and basses. "As long as it has a pickup (or
> any kind of analog signal output), you're in business," say its
> creators. Players could even have several instruments "Jeff-ready" for
> quick swap-outs from one to another.
>
> Details on what makes the Virtual Jeff tick are a bit thin on the
> ground, but we can tell you that the device is cabled to a floor control
> box about the size of a stomp. Signals from pickups on a host guitar are
> registered, combined with data from the whammy bar unit, and everything
> is run through a digital processor and then the digitally whammified
> sound is output – all in real time.
>
> "Virtual Jeff is a 'high precision' pitch controller," Peter Walker of
> Fomofx told Gizmag. "This, at first, seems technically trivial, but a
> simple analysis of what 'high precision' means in this context shows
> that it's quite a challenge.
>

It sounds like a modulator wheels on synths. That's not a bad thing but
they should hook up that a guitar manufacturer that will build in the
unit and the digital/analog converters into their guitar.