dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/11/2016 6:47 AM, cibola de oro wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 9:31:43 AM UTC-10, cibola de oro wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 1:39:41 PM UTC-10, cibola de oro
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/9/2016 9:48 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:07:40 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2016 12:46 PM, cibola do oro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 11:10:51 AM UTC-10, cibola do
>>>>>>>>>>> oro
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 7:56:20 AM UTC-10, cibola do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 4:27:19 AM UTC-10,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5, Janet B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pizza war! Pizza Hut and Papa John's slash prices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad I wouldn't eat either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an awful lot of guitarists around that could play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than guys like Clatpton or Page that will never make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've always believed that the best players are people that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody's ever heard of. The reality is talent isn't enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to have the desire to make it playing music. I never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire or the strength to be a performing guitar-monkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A sound appraisal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive doesn't mean great music, but drive may share great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The worst part is that if you have some talent, people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be trying to control your life. This happened to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buddy in high school. After college he moved to India and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappeared for a while. My guess is that the idea of being a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> performing monkey did not appeal to him either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under many radars:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rfv0dQttM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sumpin' tells me you may dog this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I don't have a Telecaster. It made the guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable for mass production and is responsible for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> history with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the electric guitar for the last 60 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeppers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's truly a brilliant design. I've got every guitar that I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted since I was 18. The only one that missing is the basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Telecaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll always dig and respect guys that do their own thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a feeling you might.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you add a 50s butterscotch one day?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, I may just build my own. Any monkey should be able to -
>>>>>>>>>>> as long
>>>>>>>>>>> as he's a very diligent monkey.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I yield to your "monkey grip", since it's not a bass...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of "grip" I find myself in a most ridiculous situation.
>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>> small tubes of denture material that is no longer made. The $7
>>>>>>>>> tubes,
>>>>>>>>> which I thought was overpriced, is now going for over around
>>>>>>>>> $140 a
>>>>>>>>> tube. If I sell all the tubes, I'd probably be able to buy a
>>>>>>>>> Telecaster
>>>>>>>>> plus a dinner at Morimoto Waikiki. Now that would be funny as
>>>>>>>>> all shit!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The first Tele I ever saw had a bridge cover. They are beautiful
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cover on, and while the cover restricts picking near the bridge
>>>>>>>> (most
>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>> don't do that much of that anyway, do they?), and adds a little
>>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> changing strings or setting intonation, the Telecaster with the
>>>>>>>> bridge
>>>>>>>> cover
>>>>>>>> is so, so pretty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://chasingguitars.com/wp-content...2013/07/03.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speaking of pretty guitars, I've got a nice one, and I'm sure
>>>>>>>> that real
>>>>>>>> guitarists would think that some bang out 4 or 5 chord rock song
>>>>>>>> hack
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> me doesn't deserve to play one of these, but I have small hands,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> in 1st
>>>>>>>> position the neck feels really nice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server30...0.1280.jpg?c=2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they made a little gold tone bridge cover for my Blueshawk, it
>>>>>>>> would make
>>>>>>>> the guitar even prettier. Like this one.
>>>>>>>> http://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gal...ge_cover_1.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Electric guitar bridges are ugly. Look at these Telecasters.
>>>>>>>> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachmen...r-p1000713-jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The telecaster bridge is a nice design that structurally makes a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> sense - it spreads the string loading forces over the widest area
>>>>>>> of an
>>>>>>> other guitar bridge and has the mounting for the bride pickup.
>>>>>>> This was
>>>>>>> a common practice with lap steel guitars. The cover provides some
>>>>>>> electrical shielding for the early pickups which were prone to be
>>>>>>> noisy
>>>>>>> from leaking transformer circuits and provided a palm rest for the
>>>>>>> lap
>>>>>>> steel player's picking hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But later pickups made that so much less of an issue, and the after
>>>>>> market now?
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of the Telecasters sold these days still have pickups with a
>>>>> design Fender developed in the 40's.
>>>>
>>>> True day - the reissue market is strong.
>>>>
>>>>> The pickups introduced by Gibson in 1957 were quieter, more fuller
>>>>> sounding, and stronger.
>>>>
>>>> Far more, yes.
>>>>
>>>>> The Gibson humbucker defined the sound of late 60's and 70's rock
>>>>> but I wanted a guitar to sound more like the Beatles and less like
>>>>> the Stones.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you wanted a Rickenbacker!
>>>>
>>>> Who didn't?
>>>>
>>>>>> Well....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://intl.fender.com/en-NL/guitar-...kups-set-of-2/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those sound pretty good. Less tweet and more balls. They would be a
>>>>> good choice on a Tele - I think.
>>>>
>>>> I think so too, the spectrum of choices is so broad now!
>>>>
>>>> Consider:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/...nd-tele-bridge
>>>>
>>>> or...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/little-59-tele
>>>>
>>>> hmmm....
>>>
>>> The sky's the limit as to pickups for Teles. Alumitones might work,
>>> although I don't think they make those for a conventional bridge
>>> install. I have used them on an archtop guitar but that extended tonal
>>> range is not something that I want on an archtop - on a Tele, however...
>>
>> Fair point, to much tonal range on an archtop will lead to unpleasant
>> harmonics, iirc.
>>
>> I wonder of that's why Fender chose not to use single pole pickups on
>> the f-hole Tele Thinlines?
>>
>> I think those preceded the single pole models, but maybe not...
>>
>
> The way I remember it was the Fender wanted their guitars to sound more
> like Gibsons so in the 70's, they made Telecasters with humbucking
> pickups. It was a good way to increase the appeal of their guitars.

Yes, a great many came from Japan, iirc.

> I had a Gibson Firebird during the 70's. It was a big ugly green guitar
> with a harsh, unpleasant, voice. It didn't suit me but it would fit in
> well with a young bluesman with an aggressive attack.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPBtZSnagsA

Like a Johnny winter style, true.

This guy is familiar to me, have you shared a link with him before?

Hilarious, but has chops too.


>>> http://www.lacemusic.com/alumitone_single_coil.php
>>
>>
>> I'm going to bridge this reply to another one you may have missed, what
>> are your thoughts on:
>>
>> Man, they can virtualize ANY thing these days!
>>
>> http://www.gizmag.com/virtual-jeff-e...mmy-bar/41249/
>>
>> The Virtual Jeff is not a mechanical vibrato system, but an electronic
>> one. Players use it like a traditional whammy bar, but digital pitch
>> control is used to massage the output for pitch-perfect, error-free
>> shimmers, dips, dives and squeals. It can be retrofitted to almost any
>> guitar, including acoustics and basses. "As long as it has a pickup (or
>> any kind of analog signal output), you're in business," say its
>> creators. Players could even have several instruments "Jeff-ready" for
>> quick swap-outs from one to another.
>>
>> Details on what makes the Virtual Jeff tick are a bit thin on the
>> ground, but we can tell you that the device is cabled to a floor control
>> box about the size of a stomp. Signals from pickups on a host guitar are
>> registered, combined with data from the whammy bar unit, and everything
>> is run through a digital processor and then the digitally whammified
>> sound is output – all in real time.
>>
>> "Virtual Jeff is a 'high precision' pitch controller," Peter Walker of
>> Fomofx told Gizmag. "This, at first, seems technically trivial, but a
>> simple analysis of what 'high precision' means in this context shows
>> that it's quite a challenge.
>>
>
> It sounds like a modulator wheels on synths. That's not a bad thing but
> they should hook up that a guitar manufacturer that will build in the
> unit and the digital/analog converters into their guitar.

Oh man, the licensing aspects of this are incredible, yes!