Jeßus wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 08:40:33 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Jeßus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I bought this a few weeks ago and have put off using it due to
> extreme >> vagueness/info on measurements when using bread mixes,
> long story >> short.
> > >
> >> Anyway, I decided to just try my standard measurements I use with
> the >> Breville. No problem there, it's all set to go and I pressed
> 'start', >> it's been sitting in 'rest' mode for the past 15 minutes
> (and >> counting).
> > >
> >> This last bit has me puzzled... why on earth would it need to
> 'rest' >> right at the start - the bread mix, yeast and water haven't
> even been >> mixed together yet.
> > >
> >> I'm no expert by any means when it comes to baking, but can anyone
> >> explain why it should rest at the start like this?
> > >
> >> NB: The machine is definitely set correctly according to the
> manual.
> >
> > It is quite normal for that machine. I have the same model and it
> > is excellent
>
> That's good news then, I can keep annoying you with silly questions
>
> > My user manual is fine. If yours is not try this:
> >
> > http://www.manualslib.com/manual/649...c-Sd-2501.html
>
> Thanks O. Pretty sure that is the same manual that I have, it has
> plenty of bread recipes but it is the ready made bread mix I use where
> it's hard to know what measurements to use.
>
> For example, on the side of the bread mix bag there are measurements
> for several Breville machines - for those the measurements are all the
> same. It also lists a few Panasonic models (but not our model). Thing
> is, for each Panasonic model there are quite large differences in the
> measurements, especially for the water. I guess it's going to be a
> case of a fair bit of trial and error.
>
> Anyway, I made a loaf yesterday using my 'standard' mix for the
> Breville - it came out 'ok' but it had risen a bit too much, making
> the loaf an odd shape (the Breville's loaf is still usable if it rises
> too much due to the shape of the tin).
>
> I note that the Panasonic's paddle isn't collapsible either, making a
> large hole in the loaf. Not only that but it puts it in the middle
> of the loaf... the Breville does not do this.
>
> The Panasonic also needs to be switched off at the wall when not in
> use as it keeps itself warm to "stop condensation"... hmm, whatever...
>
> I haven't given up on it yet and I'll try a few more loaves... but I
> may have some more questions for you if that's okay

Or ask me. I may not have your specific unit but I've been at it for a
long time. I mostly use dough only mode then rise and bake outside the
machine now.

One of the oddities of the Panasonic is wanting 2ts more water per cup
than other machines. That may be the variation you are seeing.

I don't use pre-mixes ($$$$) but am happy. I have used a few when
there was a good sale and overall, wasn't unhappy to just 'add water'.

Carol

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