On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 10:43:40 AM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 9:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 17:01:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 7/3/2016 4:45 PM, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> That is not the end of his legal trouble. I heard from a friend of the
> >>>>> family that there have been suits launched against the driver,
> >>>>> against
> >>>>> the bar where he had been drinking, and against the owners of the
> >>>>> house
> >>>>> were the party was held and the teens were drinking under age.
> >>>>> However,
> >>>>> I have to wonder how much liability the parents are willing to assume
> >>>>> for allowing their kids to stay out that late, for raising kids who
> >>>>> drink under age and who abuse alcohol.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does that mean that if the kids were drinking and on foot going home
> >>>> (not driving) you now feel it is their fault ? Rather like it's a
> >>>> woman's fault when she is raped ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it is the same.
> >>>
> >>> There is more to the story though, once you dig into it. There are many
> >>> ways the accident could have been avoided. Forget legalities for a
> >>> second and just look at the morality. If you allowed the teens to drink
> >>> at your house would you feel guilty afterwards? You had the opportunity
> >>> to prevent it and yet you did not.
> >>>
> >>> Bartender? Yes, some blame there if he was serving a person impaired
> >>> already.
> >>>
> >>> Parents? Only if they condoned the teens drinking to excess.
> >>
> >> Parents are guilty if they condoned their teens drinking at all.
> >> Years ago I volunteered with a big brother program at the local school
> >> district. For several weeks I would take an eight year old boy on
> >> outings; movies, to parks, feeding ducks, helping him plant tomatoes
> >> in his yard. He had a 16 year old sister that was built like the
> >> proverbial BSH. The mom had no problem providing her daughter with
> >> hard liquor while her daughter was entertaining 18 year old boys in
> >> their vans parked in their driveway. Once I saw what was happening I
> >> reported it to the school admin and I quit that program. It was a bad
> >> scene and the mom didn't care, she told me to lighten up, it was
> >> normal growing up. She knew her 16 year old daughter was providing
> >> sex to every boy at her school and acted like she should get an award.
> >> I learned that those big brother programs are a crock of poo. Helped
> >> set the stage for me not believing in any charitible organizations...
> >> my only charitible donation is directly feeding critters... no
> >> pockets, no stealing. Big Brother program admins like ALL charities
> >> skim grubermint funding, which means tax payers get ripped. When I
> >> feed critters I can watch them eating, they're all grateful, there's
> >> no skimming by fat cat admins. When I see a wild critter hurt/ssick I
> >> trap them if I can and sbring them to a Vet that charges little or
> >> nothing to help wild critters, They know I care for critters so they
> >> don't bill me but still I bring cases of food for the guys waiting to
> >> be adopted... strays only need a good loving home and they give back
> >> ten times over. Animal Kind is an extrordinarilly valuable
> >> organization in my community.
> >> http://www.animalkindny.com/misson
> >> Give them a forever home:
> >> http://www.animalkindny.com/animals/
> >
> > I agree. So many poor animals and so few forever homes
> >
> > I only take rescues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> We have idiots here who are importing pitbulls rescued from US shelters
> where they had been on a list for euthanising.
> Graham

Hard to believe that people can be so goddamned stupid when it comes to pitbulls. Pitbulls were bred to KILL, that is their specialty. They should be purged from this earth.
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