"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 10:33:11 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 11:21:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 00:34:45 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> And it is not true that e-coli can not survive in cooked food. There
>>>> was
>>>> that big Jack In The Box burger thing some years back.
>>>
>>>I specifically said that certain temperatures needed to be achieved.
>>>E-coli is killed at very specific temperatures for very specific
>>>lengths of time. 160F is considered the safe temperature to cook
>>>hamburger and other meats, but JitB was not doing that. If the USDA
>>>says 160F for hamburgers, what do you think would happen to e-coli in
>>>flour steamed at 200-212F?
>>>
>>>Wondra flour may have been steamed back in the 60's and 70's and
>>>General Mills still wants people to think that, but not now.
>>>Virtually all the mass produced modified food starches are now made by
>>>acid, alkaline, or enzymatic treatments.
>>
>> can't e. coli can be re-introduced into properly cooked foods by
>> hands, machinery, etc.?
>
> Sure. Anything can happen. Wondra would have a different packaging
> line for the canisters and bags-in-boxes. Wondra probably shares the
> same treatment apparatus used for bleaching their flour - which is
> treated with chlorine gas and benzoyl peroxide - yum!
>
> It's interesting to note that Wondra has been pulled from all web
> sites like Amazon and Walmart. You can find some old links to the
> product descriptions, but it's all been removed from their own search
> indexes. Not just out of stock ... but gone! It wouldn't surprise me
> that we've seen the last of Wondra.

I bought a bag of flour at QFC. There was a lady frantically pulling flour
from the shelves. The shelves were mostly empty but I did see Wondra.
Apparently I bought some from Amazon Fresh because they sent me a recall
notice. I bought whatever store brand flour QFC sells. Not sure who makes
it. Gold Medal makes Signature Kitchens and that's a Safeway brand so it
should be okay.