On 7/14/2016 12:21 PM, graham wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 8:24 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/14/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-07-14 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:52:23 PM UTC-4,
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed. Sometimes I think that religion is a fine thing for those
>>>> who need it; other times I think it's the most pernicious evil
>>>> that Homo sapiens has perpetrated upon itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some people get carried away with it. I have said in the past that I
>>> think addiction is often more of a habit than a physical addiction. A
>>> lot of alcoholics and drug addicts find their way out of their addiction
>>> through religion, but then go overboard on the religion.
>>>
>>>
>> I may be mistaken but I believe Alcoholics Anonymous uses some sort of
>> pledge to God as part of their 12 step program. Ah yes, I looked it up.
>> It's called the Serenity prayer. I guess that means atheists can't
>> join.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Some see AA as a cult. Apparently, it isn't as effective as people are
> led to believe. However, I have a friend who went through it and has
> been TT for many years.
> Graham

I'm sure it works for some people to have that "community" feeling.
Maybe. Sobriety is the goal. I applaud that. I do have an issue with
AA trying to introduce "the Lord" into it. As I've said before, I was
not raised in a religious household.

I do recall some reference in biblical lore about Jesus turning water
into wine. Seems to me some nice clean fresh water would have been more
beneficial for all concerned. Then again, he was performing a
"miracle." Heh.

Jill