"graham" > wrote in message
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> On 7/18/2016 2:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
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>> "graham" > wrote in message
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>>> On 7/18/2016 8:57 AM, Cheri wrote:
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>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:19:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:26:12 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> I was in the mood for meatloaf tonight, but at 95 degrees outside I
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> not want to use the oven. Cooked it on the grill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that you said you didn't want to use the oven. From
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> I've been told, modern gas ovens don't heat up the room like the gas
>>>>>>> ovens of old did. Just an FYI: my "older than dirt" electric oven
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> never heated up the room.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a gas convection oven and it does add heat to the room. The
>>>>>> grill worked and added no additional load to the AC. It was already
>>>>>> 95 degrees but comfortable inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> My electric oven is about 12 years old and it does heat up the entire
>>>>> house. Sometimes when the weather is just starting to turn cold, I'll
>>>>> use it to make something just so I don't have to turn the heat on.
>>>>
>>>> Mine is a fairly new GE wall oven and it definitely adds heat since the
>>>> fan blows hot air out for quite awhile afterwards.
>>>
>>> That's the cooling fan for the electronics. Mine failed once during a
>>> very high temperature bread baking session:-( Big bucks to repair the
>>> Bosch.
>>> Graham
>>
>> A Bosch is pretty high end right? I imagine they're more expensive to
>> fix? I did buy the five year warranty on mine after a mishap the first
>> day it was installed. The door lock didn't work so it had to be
>> replaced, of course there was no charge for it, but it didn't make me
>> feel confident for the long term.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
> Moderately high end. When I renovated my kitchen ~18 years ago, I wanted a
> convection oven and this was the first European style oven that was 30"
> wide to appear in this neck of the woods. In those days US makes were
> coming out with *******ised versions with a fan to circulate the air but
> the heat supplied by that stupid, exposed bottom element. I bought it on
> the name. Big mistake! In convection mode the temperature remains within a
> degree of the setting. In roast mode it swings +/- 50F!!!!!!
> It's noisy too.
> I have a Bosch dishwasher that became very noisy just after the warranty
> expired, although it still cleans well. A Bosch rep told me that they
> build them to have a 10year lifespan (Miele is 20yrs).
> Graham

I'm sorry to hear that, I always heard they were a great brand, but twenty
years and still cleans well isn't so bad.

Cheri