On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:12:28 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
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>On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:50:39 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
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>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>> "The Greatest!" wrote in message
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>>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:29:59 UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>> > Don't bother to make suggestions for product improvement to many large
>>>> > companys, they're typically met with annoyance for telling them what
>>>> > to do. I recently phoned Ziploc and susggested they have a two quart
>>>> > size because the one quart is often too small and the one gallon is
>>>> > too large. The woman told me that they see no good reason to produce
>>>> > that size and in a MYOB tone... I asked her how she'd feel if bras
>>>> > only came in A and D cup... at least I got a giggle from the witch.
>>>>
>>>> I run into the same thing with the Amazon packaging, requesting smaller
>>>> boxes for shipping. It's ridiculous that they send a huge box, full of
>>>> bubble wrap for a package of batteries or something equally small. BTW,
>>>> I
>>>> agree that the two quart size would be handy.
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>>>
>>> I get Prime Pantry stuff, it comes in a standard - size box, sometimes my
>>> boxes are full, sometimes they are near empty. I guess their reasoning is
>>> that standardizing = cost savings. I was just in Target on lunch break,
>>> was noticing that everything is in like a gazillion sizes (Ziploc food
>>> containers!), but just a very few sizes of Ziplocs...mentioned this to
>>> some co-workers, and they all complained about a lack of product between
>>> the one quart and gallon sizes, so two - quarters would surely sell.
>>>
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>>> There is a fuss here about it too. Huge great boxes for tiny things.
>>> Such
>>> a waste.
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>>Yes, and then we're stuck taking them down and getting rid of them in the
>>recycle barrel.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>Yesterday my new Weber arrived by private carrier... you gotta see the
>Weber carton, triple walled heavy corrugated with honeycomb
>reinforcements everywhere. It took me over two hours to unpack it,
>then another hour to fold up all the extra corrugated and break up the
>styrofoam. The outer carton is so heavy and so strong it can easily
>substitute for a coffin. The trucker said it weighed 160 pounds...
>I'd guesstimate 75 lbs is packaging. Weber packaging is an
>engineering miracal, however their assembly instructions are a total
>failure. I'm going to wait for this 90º+ heat to go before attempting
>to decipher their lousy assembly instructions, they are by far the
>worst I've ever seen. This is a grill that retails for nearly $1,000.
>I've seen much better assembly instructions with a $20 tomato cage...
>the users manual is worse, TP is better grade paper, and the font is
>so small I need a magnifying glass to read it... phone directories are
>printed on better paper use a more legible font. After looking it
>over I see no reason it can't be shipped much more throughly
>assembled... shouldn't need more than 15 minutes, instead it will take
>about 6 hours... the bag of assorted fasteners must weigh five pounds.
>I'll eventually assemble it but I'm not happy with the instructions.-
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>Good grief! You will have fun packing that back up if it has to go back!

There's not much packing left, just the outer carton. I'll wait for
the heat to go before I tackle it... probably won't be difficult once
I get started. I'm not in any big rush, I'm a very patient man... I
learned many years ago in my trade that the faster you go the more
behinder you get... like I'd tell my impatient boss, do you want it
fast or do you want it good? The most difficult part of these DIY
assemblies is IDing all the components, familiarizing myself with
them, and arranging them in order. I don't think I'll need to send it
back, if any parts are missing/defective I'm sure they'll send
replacements. The instructions say the only tools needed are a
Phillips and flat blade screwdriver, and they supply a small stamped
wrench... I have plenty of tools. My only problem will be deciding
where to do the assembling, says to choose a flat level surface for
the frame... there's the concrete garage floor but I don't relish
working on the hard ground... I have saw horses and boards so I'll set
up a work station under a shady tree. I don't imagine I'll encounter
any problems, it just looks overwhelming when that huge carton is
first opened. I still think they should ship it in two cartons, one
for the pre assembled lower frame and cabinet, and another carton for
the actual grill. It would end up being two much smaller/lighter
cartons and I believe they'd sell more units that way, a lot of people
don't like having to assemble stuff, and having the store do it can be
costly and the kids they have do it don't do a very good job.