On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 03:29:52 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 7:34:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >, says...
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>> >> wrote:
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>> >> > On 7 Sep 2016 00:16:53 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >On 2016-09-06, > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Well there was Susan Boyle - she would never have been known any
>> >> > >> other
>> >> > >> way.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >No surprise. Her face would stop a train!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >nb
>> >> >
>> >> > Worse than that were her dark stockings with a light beige dress
>> >>
>> >> Sadly, looks do count if you want to be a famous singer.
>> >
>> > Looks didn't count in the careers of Barry Manilow, Amy Winehouse,
>> > Michael Jackson, Barbara Streisand, Iggy Pop, Johnny Rotten.
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>>
>> Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and the list goes on....
>>
>> Cheri
>
>I'm not one of those second- or third-wave feminists who blames
>everything on the male hegemony, but it seems obvious that for
>women in public life, looks matter (notwithstanding my earlier
>comment which implied without stating outright that I don't care
>what a good singer looks like). A man's appearance is never
>picked apart quite so nastily as a woman's.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

It's inane/shallow to pick apart how a women in her mid 50s looks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Boyle
I don't think she was ever Miss Universe quality, she never pretended
to be, but as a young woman she wasn't bad looking at all:
https://nicescream.wordpress.com/200...g-susan-boyle/
There have been many world reknowned opera divas with no better
looks... people don't attend operas to look, they attend to listen,
most will have their eyes closed through the entire performance.
Pavarotti wasn't much to look at either, not even when he was young...
men sport facial hair to hide their unattractive looks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dxWA2vqv7U