"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ...

On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> "l not -l" wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> itsjoannotjoan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In many Southern homes cornbread is on the table EVERY
>>>>> night at dinnertime.
>>>>
>>>> And you know that how?
>>>>
>>> Ummmmmmm, because *I* live in the South. Does that
>>> answer your question?
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you are just stereotyping Southern people.
>>>>
>>> I've lived in the South ALL my life and I have a fair idea
>>> of what we eat.
>>>>
>>>> Do all black people love watermelon and Moon Pies?
>>>>
>>> How did watermelon, Moon Pies and black people enter into
>>> this conversation? I'm not black and I love watermelon
>>> but I detest Moon Pies. If I live to be 100 and never see
>>> another Moon Pie again it will be too soon.
>>
>> I lived in the south (Kentucky) from birth until I was 12, and continue
>> to
>> have ties (family and property) there still. One of my grandmothers had
>> biscuits AND cornbread (or corn muffins, cakes, sticks, etc) on the table
>> every meal I ever had there. Those grandparents were share-cropppers and
>> had several family members working the fields; dinner (noon meal) always
>> included feeding the "hands". My other grandmother, though she had in
>> earlier years, did not cook for field hands; she always had biscuits OR
>> cornbread on the table. One of my favorite things to eat as a child was
>> cornbread with butter and sorghum.
>>
>> I have noticed that a lot of people don't really understand "southern"
>> food.
>> What is often called "soul" food is thought to be for African Americans;
>> the
>> reality is, it is what cash-poor people ate. Sometimes when I checkout
>> at
>> the supermarket an AA checker will ask me why I have collards, or hocks
>> or
>> smoked jowl or whatever. A share-cropper family ate the stuff they
>> couldn't
>> sell at a good price and, much of the year, had little cash; therefore
>> bought only necessary pantry items. In addition to food from the garden,
>> my
>> grandparents would forage; we ate collards and other greens when my
>> grandfather found them growing wild in/near his fields. Soul food is
>> what
>> people of limited means lived on; and, they learned how to make it taste
>> great.
>>
>> In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more
>> of
>> cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
>> our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
>> Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
>> poured into a bottle of RC cola.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing. I love hearing how families lived 'back in the day'!
>
> Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
> I learned a lot about southern food in the navy being that about 75%
> of the crew were southerners and of those more than half were black. I
> was constantly being told the "right" way to cook this and that like
> it was done at home, and lots of arguments ensued between southerners
> from differeent areas, even from the same state. I quickly found out
> that most southerners had never seen spaghetti, some wouldn't eat
> those 'worms' while some tried it and liked it so much they could
> easily consume a whole pound and more. One thing you may find
> surprising is that southerners much prefered ham steaks with red eye
> gravy and breakfast sausages to bacon, it was primarily the
> northerners who prefered bacon and not too crisp, limp was prefered. I
> baked an awful lot of corn bread in huge roasting pans, it was served
> every day... no one wanted it with bacon grease, the most popular way
> was drowned in white sauce with breakfast sausages (southern SOS).
> Corn bread smothered with baked beans was also popular among
> southerners. Northerners preferred pound cake and bread pudding.
> That southerners like blackeyed peas has to be a myth, they only
> wanted navy beans prepared Boston style... most every night I put up
> an 80 quart kopper with beans (a la Heinz pork n' beans style), every
> drop was eaten for breakfast. A kopper is a steam jacketed kettle,
> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
> This was home for four years:
> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
> (destroyer escort) galley:
> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>


I posted several design plans and photos from WWII destroyers galleys a
while back, but nobody bothered to comment. I thought they were pretty
interesting.
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I didn't see them.



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