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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 07:51:45 -0700, Taxed and Spent
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>On 9/18/2016 6:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> "l not -l" wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> itsjoannotjoan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In many Southern homes cornbread is on the table EVERY
>>>>>> night at dinnertime.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you know that how?
>>>>>
>>>> Ummmmmmm, because *I* live in the South. Does that
>>>> answer your question?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you are just stereotyping Southern people.
>>>>>
>>>> I've lived in the South ALL my life and I have a fair idea
>>>> of what we eat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do all black people love watermelon and Moon Pies?
>>>>>
>>>> How did watermelon, Moon Pies and black people enter into
>>>> this conversation? I'm not black and I love watermelon
>>>> but I detest Moon Pies. If I live to be 100 and never see
>>>> another Moon Pie again it will be too soon.
>>>
>>> I lived in the south (Kentucky) from birth until I was 12, and continue to
>>> have ties (family and property) there still. One of my grandmothers had
>>> biscuits AND cornbread (or corn muffins, cakes, sticks, etc) on the table
>>> every meal I ever had there. Those grandparents were share-cropppers and
>>> had several family members working the fields; dinner (noon meal) always
>>> included feeding the "hands". My other grandmother, though she had in
>>> earlier years, did not cook for field hands; she always had biscuits OR
>>> cornbread on the table. One of my favorite things to eat as a child was
>>> cornbread with butter and sorghum.
>>>
>>> I have noticed that a lot of people don't really understand "southern" food.
>>> What is often called "soul" food is thought to be for African Americans; the
>>> reality is, it is what cash-poor people ate. Sometimes when I checkout at
>>> the supermarket an AA checker will ask me why I have collards, or hocks or
>>> smoked jowl or whatever. A share-cropper family ate the stuff they couldn't
>>> sell at a good price and, much of the year, had little cash; therefore
>>> bought only necessary pantry items. In addition to food from the garden, my
>>> grandparents would forage; we ate collards and other greens when my
>>> grandfather found them growing wild in/near his fields. Soul food is what
>>> people of limited means lived on; and, they learned how to make it taste
>>> great.
>>>
>>> In the western KY of my youth more people (black or white) thought more of
>>> cantaloupe varieties than watermelon; but, Moon Pies were a big seller at
>>> our general store. The three biggest selling "treats" at that store were
>>> Moon Pies, Bluebird brand personal pies (single serve) and Tom's peanuts
>>> poured into a bottle of RC cola.
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing. I love hearing how families lived 'back in the day'!

>>
>> Yes, very interesting post, learned about Tom's Peanuts... thank you.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_Snacks
>> I learned a lot about southern food in the navy being that about 75%
>> of the crew were southerners and of those more than half were black. I
>> was constantly being told the "right" way to cook this and that like
>> it was done at home, and lots of arguments ensued between southerners
>> from differeent areas, even from the same state. I quickly found out
>> that most southerners had never seen spaghetti, some wouldn't eat
>> those 'worms' while some tried it and liked it so much they could
>> easily consume a whole pound and more. One thing you may find
>> surprising is that southerners much prefered ham steaks with red eye
>> gravy and breakfast sausages to bacon, it was primarily the
>> northerners who prefered bacon and not too crisp, limp was prefered. I
>> baked an awful lot of corn bread in huge roasting pans, it was served
>> every day... no one wanted it with bacon grease, the most popular way
>> was drowned in white sauce with breakfast sausages (southern SOS).
>> Corn bread smothered with baked beans was also popular among
>> southerners. Northerners preferred pound cake and bread pudding.
>> That southerners like blackeyed peas has to be a myth, they only
>> wanted navy beans prepared Boston style... most every night I put up
>> an 80 quart kopper with beans (a la Heinz pork n' beans style), every
>> drop was eaten for breakfast. A kopper is a steam jacketed kettle,
>> there were no pots or stoves in a ship's galley.
>> This was home for four years:
>> https://ussjohnpauljones.org/images/...ernization.jpg
>> Couldn't find images of a DD galley. found an image of a DDE
>> (destroyer escort) galley:
>> http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/...ey/galley.html
>>

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>I posted several design plans and photos from WWII destroyers galleys a
>while back, but nobody bothered to comment. I thought they were pretty
>interesting.


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